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Actually, a metaclip might be a "simple" envelope of cross-faded audio clips (with Bezier curves). In both views, of course. Not sure this is too much to ask to eliminate the need for destructive editing (which also results in sound quality degradation).

how cool with such an approach one can even combine MIDI and Audio Clips (the goal for 2020)

just kidding. mixing audio and midi on a single track is a bad habbit. looks very usable. any potential inconsistencies? it's not about nested clips exactly (with envelope tweaks etc), only audio.

that'll not be the same because you're then rearranging bits of the same source.. the abillity of rearranging bits of different sources is what makes this interesting.. well - the engine implementation would be kinda data structure of [wave, offsets] elements instead of a single [wave, offsets] (so...

not to forget that destructive editing (inline editing especially) has enough drawbacks/cons there are moves in other software domains toward the non-destructive editing as well - layers in photoshop and lightroom settings for example, why not in Ableton then? why do I need to have 10 modifications ...

can I ask more about the reasoning, please? from implementation point of view, it's kinda Composite design pattern: a clip is a metaclip (group of clips) no need in micro-arranger as well - the actions might be performed in arrangement view, but I'd like to keep the result in session view That said...

oh yes, I think about this daily. I can only hope that The Abletons have a magnificent solution up their sleeves, as I know that they don't like the metaclip / groupclip approach. I don't agree with their reasoning on this, though I can (sort of) understand it. can I ask more about the reasoning, p...

cool idea
tried to propose something more-or-less the same:

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=109723

not much support till now

well, your example is stylish and the discussion becomes kinda too broad, but the idea is the same: we'll be happy to have an opportunity to group clips in a non-destructive manner.

anyone else? anymore arguments, please?

here is kinda common way to gain interesting loops or reusable audio fragments: 1. Render some short sounds 2. Group some short sounds along the timeline, carefully adjusting the overlapping parts 3. Re-use the grouped sounds (as a clip)? Currently there are only two ways to make somethin'-like-this...

Hey there! Rare case, but I am considering the following configuration: Ableton on Lenovo ThinkPad X200, comfortable and powerful enough for music production during long journeys. Hence, a few questions: 1. Did anyone here experienced music production, utilizing any of Lenovo laptops (maybe even Len...

[corn] any probs with your thinkpad? which OS do you use? which thinkpad model?

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thanks again!

Sorry, I'll try to delete the request then. If I won't succeed - please just do not reply