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Hi folks,

We have just uploaded a beta version of the upcoming Live bug fix update.
The final version will be released in the next few days.
Everybody Live 4 user is welcome to pre-check this beta.


We decided to make this "some kind" of public beta, but with very reduced
support from our side. That means, please send your Live 4.1.2 beta feedback
ONLY to beta@ableton.com.


Please do not post feedback in the forum or send to our support.
Please do not send general Live questions or feature wishes.


Mac OS X: http://www.ableton.com/_common/download ... e411b2.sit
Mac Os 9: http://www.ableton.com/_common/download ... e411b2.hqx

Windows: http://www.ableton.com/_common/download ... e411b2.zip


Current version: Live 4.1.1b2



Limitations:
- a Live 4 serial is needed to unlock
- will run only until 28h February
- does not contain Manuals
- does not contain Starter Sets
- The Windows version does contain some additional debug code to create crash logs.
Therefore the version is about 10% to 20% slower as the final release version.


thanks and regards,
Alex




===============================================================================
The list of bug fixes and improvements from Live 4.1.1b1 to Live 4.1.1b2:
===============================================================================
===============================================================================


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[01] Bug: Rendering/Consolidate Ping Pong Delay

Platform: All

Under certain Live would not render correctly tracks containing the
Ping Pong Delay effect because a wrong feedback value.


Status: Fixed



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[02] Bug: Random crash when recording with 96kHz

Platform: All

Under very rare conditions Live would crash when recording with 96kHz for
longer periods of time.

Status: Fixed



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[03] Bug: Recording/Consolidate in ReWire slave mode

Platform: All

Running as ReWire slave Live would not recognizing the host
sample rate on recording and consolidation.


Status: Fixed



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[04] Bug: Operator: Global time

Platform: All

Because of a wrong initialization Operator's Global Time parameter could behave
not correctly.

Status: Fixed



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[05] Bug: Save of detail view state

Platform: All

Live would not save correctly the open/closed state of the detail view
(track vs. clip view) in the song.

Status: Fixed







===============================================================================
The list of bug fixes and improvements from Live 4.1 to Live 4.1.1b1:
===============================================================================
===============================================================================


==============================================================================
[01] Bug: Keys and mouse clicks on OS X

Platform: OS X

There was a noticeable delay when using computer keys or clicking with
the mouse on OS X. This bug was responsible for some other strange behavior
such as inaccuracies in Tap-Tempo.


Status: Fixed



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[02] Bug: Crash for special keys on a japanese system

Platform: All

Live would crash when typing certain characters (such as German
umlauts) on a Japanese system.

Status: Fixed



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[03] Bug: Crash with VST side chain Plug-ins

Platform: All

Live would crash when trying to use a VST plug-in with a side chain (for instance
Voxengo crunchessor).

Status: Fixed



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[04] Bug: Moving warped playing clips

Platform: All

This fixes the bug that a warped playing session clip, when moved to another
slot while it is playing, would playback at the wrong position.

Status: Fixed



==============================================================================
[05] Bug: AutoFilter quantize

Platform: All

Depending on quantize and arranger loop settings AutoFilter's quantize
did not work right.


Status: Fixed



==============================================================================
[06] Bug: Latency compensation field

Platform: All

There was an rounding problem with the latency compensation field in the
audio preferences.

Status: Fixed



==============================================================================
[07] Bug: ReWire with Reason

Platform: All


Sometimes Live would send a MIDI event with a wrong time stamp to
Propellerhead's Reason.

Status: Fixed



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[08] Bug: Operator parameter modulation

Platform: All

There was a problem with some MIDI controlled parameters producing
non rounded values. This is fixed so that it is now possible to MIDI control
these parameters correctly.

Due to this fix, some Operator envelopes from Live 4.1 may not
be transferred correctly. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Here is the list of parameters we had to change:

-envelope repeat time
-envelope time velocity scale
-pitch env attack level
-pitch env decay level
-pitch env sustain level
-osc coarse
-osc fine
-fixed frequency multiplicator
-osc phase
-osc velocity scale
-osc key scale
-osc d feedback
-envelope time
-envelope key time scale
-filter frequency velocity scale
-filter frequency key scale
-filter frequency envelope amount
-panorama key scale
-panorama random scale
-spread
-transpose
-pitch bend range


==============================================================================
[09] Bug: Startup Crash on OS X 10.4

Platform: OS X 10.4

Live 4.1 would crash when starting on Mac OS X 10.4.

Status: Fixed





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[10] Improvements: Operator hide

Platform: All

It is now possible to hide Operator. You can do this in the Products section
of Live's preferences. If hidden, Operator is not visible in the instrument
browser and the Operator Lessons are not accessible via the Help menu.
Furthermore, if you load a song containing Operator while it is hidden,
you can load the song but the contained Operator will be disabled.



==============================================================================
[11] Improvement: Edirol Orchestra plug-in

Platform: All

Better support for the Edirol Orchestra plug-in.



==============================================================================
[12] Improvements: Lesson view screen resolution

Platform: All

We removed the screen resolution restrictions for the Lesson view.
Therefore the Lesson view should be visible on all screen resolutions.



Link to the annoucement of Live 4.1.1b1:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17121

no fix for the exclusive arm not working properly?

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16587

really annoying... it happens quite often, even if i don't do any midi mapping...
do i have to wait for Live 4.1.2?

Alex wrote:Hi folks,

===============================================================================
The list of bug fixes and improvements from Live 4.1.1b1 to Live 4.1.1b2:
===============================================================================

===============================================================================
==============================================================================
[09] Bug: Startup Crash on OS X 10.4

Platform: OS X 10.4

Live 4.1 would crash when starting on Mac OS X 10.4.

Status: Fixed

Link to the annoucement of Live 4.1.1b1:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17121

Thats pretty impressive........but tell me this please Ableton......where do you get Mac OS X 10.4 thats Tiger isn't it ??

there have been developer seeded versions of Tiger since last year.

i'm sure its very important for them to remove this bug so that 3rd party plugin developers can be assured that their plugs will still function in Ableton under OS 10.4

Thank the Lord! They fixed that OS X keyboard timing bug. That shit was driving me nuts. It works great now, thanks Abe's!

k

dirtystudios wrote:Thank the Lord! They fixed that OS X keyboard timing bug. That shit was driving me nuts. It works great now, thanks Abe's!

k

yeah, I guess that's a big performance boost! It was way off, iirc.

Covert Operators wrote:there have been developer seeded versions of Tiger since last year.

i'm sure its very important for them to remove this bug so that 3rd party plugin developers can be assured that their plugs will still function in Ableton under OS 10.4

Reasonable point..........but isn't it inevitable that the final release version of Tiger (whenever that is.......30 June ??) will be different to developer seeded versions.........seems just as likely that the 10.4 reference is a typo.

Beatworld wrote:

Covert Operators wrote:there have been developer seeded versions of Tiger since last year.

i'm sure its very important for them to remove this bug so that 3rd party plugin developers can be assured that their plugs will still function in Ableton under OS 10.4

Reasonable point..........but isn't it inevitable that the final release version of Tiger (whenever that is.......30 June ??) will be different to developer seeded versions.........seems just as likely that the 10.4 reference is a typo.

it takes developer seeds to establish stable software.

AdamJay wrote: it takes developer seeds to establish stable software.

It all makes sense......thanks.... I regret the topic now

G'day all!!!

Still in holiday mode and doing my internet from pre-pay dial-up cards and just seen this update - can anyone tell me if there's anything juicy in it or whether it's just a bug fix with not much excitement in it???

cheers

forge wrote:G'day all!!!

Still in holiday mode and doing my internet from pre-pay dial-up cards and just seen this update - can anyone tell me if there's anything juicy in it or whether it's just a bug fix with not much excitement in it???

cheers

It finally sports that cupholder you've been asking about
Figuring you own the operator, this update wont be of too much relevance.
by the time your back it's a new version instead of a new beta.