What's the best way to sync and control a modular alongside Live?

I've been using Live with Volta but am not quite sure about it, not to mention that I find the dongle annoying. I've also given the Silent Way plug ins a try. Neither of them feel perfect, so I'm wondering what Live users that have modulars are using to make the two work together?

I'd prefer something that works with my soundcard (which has DC coupled outputs) rather than specialist hardware.

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edm 5 years ago | 1 comment

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  • Ableton_David Ableton staff
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    Have you looked into getting a hardware MIDI-CV converter? Additionally, a number of devices will convert USB MIDI to CV signals, such as this one: http://www.kentonuk.com/products/items/m-cv/usb-solo.shtml

    Also, most modular sequencers (if you're using one) have CV inputs or time syncing. These will usually accept a pulse that is timed to hit every quarter note, which you can send out from a channel on your audio interface.

    5 years ago | 1 comment
  • grnr
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    If your soundcard has DC coupled outputs, then you should try the Silent Way plugins, which send CV and Gate from your soundcard outputs.

     

    http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/silentway.html

    5 years ago | 0 comments
  • 6ix
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    You can download audio pulse files from tiptopaudio.com under the Circadian Rhythms download section.  From there, simply place the audio pulse into a drum rack, make a midi pattern that is equivalent to your ppq of choice, then send that audio out to your modular clock.

    For example, I have a Roland Octacapture and I'm using output #5 to send the audio pulse to a QCD which then sends clocks all over the place.  This is a solution that is free of jitter that can cause things to go out of sync when using midi.

    4 months ago | 0 comments
  • 6ix
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    You can also get a DC Coupled interface and Reaktor Blocks.  I've been using this method the last couple months, and it's pretty solid as well.  The interface I'm using is a MOTU Ultralite MK3 Hybrid.

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  • Proxy-M
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    Wow you mean you can send pulses from blocks? And add swing too ? That sounds like an even better solution. Way more flexible then manually creating pulse loops.

    Am i right when i say the pulse loops work without dc coupled interfaces but the reaktor sync needs to be sent via a DC coupled output? (luckily my AI is)

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  • dr_roland
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    Everything is working fine for me since I've bought this one:

    http://www.schneidersladen.de/innerclock-systems-sync-lock

    Never heard a midiclock beeing so tight!

    I also use some midi to cv converters like the other users.

    5 years ago | 0 comments
  • Proxy-M
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    Thanks for this info! And I can confirm what 6ix says. I use the 120BPM_1_bar_16th_reset.wav from the tiptop audio site. This has a clock pulse on the right channel and reset pulse on the left channel. With 4 audio channels (clock and reset per device) i can sync 2 devices (saving the need to multiply the clock with a multiple, i have audio out's to spare). A 1601 sequencer and a Metropolis. They have to catch up but after a bar they run in sync. I manually created 2, 3 and 4 bar loops with each 1 reset at the beginning. 

    Also, when i change the tempo the sync is pretty solid.

    PS I use an Echo Audiofire 12

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  • Proxy-M
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    Can you run blocks as an independent clock that live syncs to? I mean, can I have the clock of reactor running (and syncing the modular) and start and stop live without stopping the clock. That would be amazing. I assume i can sync blocks to live, but that would mean the clock stops when i stop live.

    1 day ago | 1 comment
  • chrtessa
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    i use :

    BeatStepPro via clock out or a midi drum cv out ( for clock divider )

    or expert sleepers ES 3 connect via optical output from my motu 828 MK3

    or an audoi output from my motu MK3 via expert slepers slient way plug in

    1 day ago | 0 comments

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