Copying/Moving sliced MIDI clips in arrangement view

I have a MIDI clip made from slicing an audio drum clip. The MIDI clip plays when invoked where LIVE placed it after being made. But when I copy and move the clip <Opt-drag> to another track in arrangement view, it seems to not take any of the mapping or slices with it. The MIDI notes are there, but the slice information is missing. 

I seem to be misunderstanding something here, but I'm not sure what I'm not understanding ... 

Thx ....

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SQY 2 years ago | 0 comments

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  • Eppe
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    Hi there!

    The thing that happens when you slice an audio clip to a new MIDI track is it creates a new track with an Instrument Rack in it, and in that instrument rack are multiple Simpler devices, one Simpler for every slice of audio. (You can see this Instrument Rack when you click on the sliced track). The MIDI clips that are in the track just trigger the slices that are in the Simplers, MIDI clips themselves don't produce sound. So when you only copy the MIDI clip to another MIDI track, the MIDI notes don't have any slices to trigger (just like when you copy a MIDI clip to an empty MIDI track, you have to give the MIDI notes an 'instrument' to play.)

    If you want the same MIDI notes you have now to play a different sliced sound, you have to slice another audio clip to a new track, and then copy the MIDI clip to that track, so it can play those new slices. Or if you just want another track with the same sliced sound, copy the whole track instead of just the MIDI clip.

    Hope this is clear, if not let me know :)

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • SQY
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    Hmmmn, thanks, the veil is gradually lifting, though the cobwebs of misunderstanding remain. I think I get what you mean, and with further use, the spider may even spin a web of understanding .... 

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Eppe
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    Maybe I can clarify more by visualizing it, if it doesn't help it's still a funny image ;)

    Imagine you have a tape with a recording of, for instance, a beat on it (the audio clip). You cut the tape up into for instance 8 equal pieces (slicing to new midi track), put each piece in a different tape player and hand these out to 8 people (the Simplers). You give them a score with notes on it (the MIDI clip) which describes exactly who should play his tape at which moment. This works.

    But, if you now copy the score (MIDI clip) and give it to a bunch of other people who don't have tape recorders with pieces of tape in them (empty MIDI track) you won't hear anything ;)

    Okay really silly but hope this makes it more clear :)

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • SQY
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    Thankyou . . . . I'll keep that in mind for the next Ableton meal ... which I hope won't be one sandwich short of a picnic

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • SQY
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    Thanks, Eppe . . . . its kinda sinking in .

    2 years ago | 0 comments

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