Live 9 Suite Core Library location question

I posed this question to Ableton support also, but I know they are swamped and I'd like to get an answer before the 12th.

The knowledge base says: 

"The Core Library contains Live's factory content and can't be changed by the user. It is tied to the Live installation, so you don't need to worry about this.

On Windows, the Core Library is stored under C:\Users\ProgramData\Ableton\Live 9\Resources\Core Library. "

My question is:  Can I seriously not specify which hard drive/partition I want to use to install my library? 

I have my machine set up in such a way that I don't have a lot of space on my boot partition, I have a large, fast hard drive that I use to hold all of my audio production software and libraries.  If I'm forced to install the library to my C: drive, this is a show-stopper for me (I don't have 50 gigs free on that drive). 

I noticed that the trial version seems to have installed the core library to a subfolder on the drive where I installed it (and this is exactly what I want).  Can anyone tell me for sure how this works?  I'm really hoping that knowledge base article is wrong.  Thanks!

 

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MNealy 2 years ago | 1 comment

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  • hendrikstudio
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    same interest here.. System Drive is a 128 gb SSD. I don't want my whole Library in there.. but is it true that there are only shortcuts saved.. so all the Audio is saved in "packs" and the Library doesn't get this huge??

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • stoner99
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    Well, the Core Library is on ~600MB. The rest goes to Library, which you can allocate where you want.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • adrigen123
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    Not an answer, but related and additional to the question: is it possible to add to the core library? Not alter structure, just add content (ie copy content from my live 8 library into the appropriate parts of the structure)?

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • SpecialGuest
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    WE NEED AN ANSWER TODAY BEFORE THE 12TH!!!

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • TRB DJ
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    only the root library is on the root drive and you can move the user library anywhere you want 

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • SpecialGuest
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    I'm on XP and this is not the location of the library, in fact there is no C:\ Users folder at all. Hidden folders are showing

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Dowlphin
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    There is a tool called Link Shell Extension which allows convenient use of the hard links feature of NTFS, and in Windows XP even some additional functionality.

    When using LSE, you can move your core library to another location and then create a junction at the original location that points to the new location. It works like a redirector.

    If your system drive is an SSD and you want to retain its speed for launching Ableton (assuming that it reads the library's contents then and doesn't have it cached in a database), I recommend only moving the biggest chunk of the core library, which is the samples folder.

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • misk
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    wonder if you could do something similar with PATH or aliases on OSX?

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • vanKloot
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    CRAP it appears that the Ableton forum software is converting some of the paths below into http web URLs.  This is VERY wrong and will cause things to go very badly.  Hopefully you can see what it's doing and remove the http:// references.  Sorry for any headache!

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    For what it's worth, I was looking for this same thing but on Mac.  Turns out it's quite simple to move the core library (though it's under 700MB so it may not be worth the trouble to some) and reference it with a Symbolic Link (NOT the same as an alias!).  HOWEVER there is one critical "gotcha" I will detail at the end.

    Here are the steps (NOTE:  Will require brief use of Terminal):

    First, the Core library is located inside the Ableton Live application itself so you won't find it in any folder anywhere obvious.

    1.  Right Click Ableton Live (the application itself) and choose Show Package Contents and open App-Resources to find your core library.

    For example my Core library is located in /Applications/Ableton Live 9 http://Suite.app/Contents/App-Resources/Core Library

    2.  Copy the Core Library folder to wherever you like on another drive.  For example's sake, say that path ends up being:  /Volumes/Audio HD/Audio Libraries/Ableton/Core Library

    3. Now, DELETE the Core Library from inside the Ableton App itself (don't worry, you already copied it elsewhere so if you really had to, you could just copy it back again).

    4.  Launch Terminal and type the following:

    cd /path/to/old/core/library

    For example mine would be:

    cd /Applications/Ableton\ Live\ 9\ http://Suite.app/Contents/App-Resources/

    Next type:

    ln -s /path/to/new/Core\ Library Core\ Library

    So for example mine looks like this:

    ln -s /Volumes/Audio\ HD/Audio\ Libraries/Ableton/Core\ Library Core\ Library

    This will create a symbolic link, that points to your new library, in the current directory (which is your Ableton App-Resources directory).  Note that in the above there are a whole bunch of back-slashes.  These are CRITICAL because they "escape" the spaces in some of the folder names.  Without those backslashes, things will fail.

    Also note that near the end, there is a space followed by "Core\ Library".  This is also critical and defines the name of the actual symbolic link you will create and must be "Core Audio" and therefore must use the backslash for the space between the words.

    5.  If all went well, you should now see a "folder" inside the Ableton App-Resources folder, called "Core Library" but if you look closely, you'll notice that it is only a few bytes in size (mine is 56 bytes).  In reality, it points to the library on your other drive, where you moved it, and Ableton should behave the same as always, and not even know the difference.

    If for any reason things go badly, you can simply delete any symbolic link you created inside Ableton Live and copy your original Core Library folder back again, and you'll be right back where you started.

    The process on a PC should be largely the same but obviously creating symlinks and the actual paths involved will be different.

    Now for the catch!  The Live browser WILL NOT show you aliases/symlinks no matter what you do.  This means that if you make the above change, your "MIDI Effects" and "Audio Effects" sections will appear to be empty!  However if you search for MIDI or Audio effects with the FIND function, they will be there and work perfectly fine.  You just can't see a list of all your MIDI/Audio effects by clicking on the respective name like normal.

    To me, this isn't actually worth the trouble for under 700MB of space.  But for those who insist on managing the location of their Core Library, here you go.

    Enjoy!

    13 days ago | 0 comments

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