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Hi I m a windows user since a long time but now I near 75 % on linux how unbuntu or Fedora .
Graphic or other audio programs or audio interface are not a problem.
Only think i m miss is Ableton..
My question ...
Can we aspect that Ableton with Maxforlive comes to Linux maybe when Live 10 comes out ?
Or is that a dream that can never be true ?
Best regard

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S.Rueckwardt 3 years ago | 3 comments

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  • Polyson
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    +1 for Ableton Linux version.

    For different reasons, I decided to quit Mac OS. I don't want to use an "OS as a service" like windows 10 so my next computer will be under Linux. I don't want to have to switch to Bitwig, because I'm a Huge fan of Ableton. Of course I could use VM to run live on my future Debian but I'm sure I'll get bored sooner or later...

    By philosophy and ease of use, I don't use any third party plugin so this is not a problem for me.

    I hope we will be enough usesr to ask for it ;)

     

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Baddcr
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    Another +1 for linux here.

     

    The days of Mac OS X and Apple are running short, they will be ok for a few years yet, but for a variety of reasons my next computer will be Linux, not Mac.

     

    I would sell my Ableton License and move to something else if needs be, but I'd rather not :)

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • flyweight@rocketmail.com
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    +1 for ableton on linux, actually I am using it on via WINE-RT + Debian 8 + Wineasio.

    Did not test push yet.  Max works but you cannot edit devices.

    If Ableton is writen in C or C++ why not try to build a version with winelib. https://www.winehq.org/docs/winelib-guide/winelib-introduction

    This is done for example for Renoise tracker and make it easy for Windows programs to access unixcalls

     

     

     

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • flberger
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    +1 for Live on Linux.

    Ableton - or the user base - could launch a crowdfunding campaign for that.

    That would showcase the demand as well as secure funding for the development - by the very people profiting from it.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Transtead
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    +1 for Ableton on Linux! 

    I'm really not interested in upgrading to Windows 10, and Wine makes Ableton laggy (at least on my setup).  It'd be great if it ran natively in the Linux environment. 

    2 years ago | 1 comment
  • Tåkesinn
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    +1 from me.

    Let's talk about the benifits.

    • Linux has two options for realtime scheduling. There's the PolKit-Realtime solution, which is standard in most Linux desktop distributions today. Not only, but you can get a costum Linux kernel with Preemptive functionality (a.k.a PremptiveRT), or why not just patch and build the kernel it self?
       
    • Screw NTFS - screw HFS+. Your data can and will be lost. With the latest iteration of OpenZFS for Linux you get COW functionality (Copy-on-Write) and enterprise grade data redundancy and integrity functionality. The read/write speeds leave NTFS and ZFS+ lacking. ZFS is THE choice of server farms on an internatinoal basis. Forget ReFS and AFS: ZFS is tested and secure - and with OpenZFS stabilising on the Linux side it's probably going to be the defacto standard in a short time.
       
    • Jack2 audio routing leaves OS X CoreAudio routing in the dust. You can route anything to anything in your audio setup. Accept no substitute.
       
    • I'm guessing Ableton might want to take the Native Instrument route and release hardware with the OS included, specifically tailored for Ableton Live. With Windows Core you can expect hefty licensing, pushing the price even higher. With Linux, Ableton could roll their own distribution, costumized for the purpose of running Ableton Live. Cut away the overhead, only build the modules and functions necessary and watch that RAM/CPU usage drop - making a runtime as thin as air.
       
    • The ONLY drawback is the lack of support for certain audio hardware in the kernel. But wait! With QuirksMode (a.k.a costum device setup) you can actually attempt to get your audio setup working WITHOUT official support. Add to that an open community of millions worldwide, ready to help you test and get your hardware runnign ASAP, you can get things running without relying on a monolithing company that has other priorities to do it for you.
       
    • Ableton Live already relies heavily on the Python language and Python is at home in Linux. There should be little in the way of getting it ported.
       
    • I don't want my OS controlled by a vendor that's probably going to drop support for my computer a couple of years down the road. I want accountability, stability and security. With the latest desktops (MATE, Unity, Gnome, Plasma, etc) the user is given endless oppertunities and choices - on old hardware and new.

    Please, Ableton - pretty please! For all that is holy! Start developing Ableton Live for Linux. I desperately want to make the move, but without Ableton Live I'm stuck in Windows 10. I will never buy a Mac, I flat out refuse - and like many others my nose shifts ever closer to Bitwig, sniffing at it to see if it can do the job Ableton Live does. But I'd really like to stick with Ableton Live. Who the heck thought making a DAW in java was a good idea anyways? Sure the notation is better, but it looks like it's the misshapen lovechild of Ableton Live and Logic Pro.

    Again: PLEASE...! Pretty please...?

    Signed, a desperate fan

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • drpaneas
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    +1 for Ableton on Linux

    I am a QA Maintenance Engineer for SUSE Linux and I would love to use Ableton Live on Linux natively.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • g3f
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    Hi,

    it's +1 for me to get Live on Linux.

    We need it !!

    Hope soon.

    Best regards

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Jorgeelalto
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    I also vote for Live on linux. Bitwig is stealing Ableton sales on linux! ;P

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Achiminator
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    Ableton, Imagine you at the very first start of an new serious music production os. This is really the only thing I miss in Linux. Definitely +1 for Linux. Would love that.

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • tschonsen
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    +1 for Ableton on Linux!

    Live is the only reason for my Windows!

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • noid
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    +1 for linux. I am using windows only for live...

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • Omniand
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    +1 for Live and M4L on Linux natively

    At this point, I have to keep a separate Windows installation just for music production because otherwise all the unnecessary things in Windows get in the way. I have been gutting Windows to 5 processes at boot to get things to work on older hardware

    I've got a new system otw now and am going to attempt to pull everything I can into Linux, and with what I do I expect to have to gut windows again... but this will end up meaning that I'll have Linux + Win for certain incompatible day job things + another Win for music/audio work...It'll work, but what a pain

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Liamness
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    I currently dual-boot OS X and Windows, the latter mainly for games, the former because I need a Unix environment (software engineer) and habit. I would probably break that habit and install Linux if Live were available there. It would make performing on the go a lot easier too- if I could use a cheap "beater" laptop (linux can usually get great performance out of old netbooks and so on), that I don't care about getting chucked around etc, that would give me more peace of mind than trying to use something like a macbook.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • seimsel
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    Since Apple decided to ditch usable screens I'd really love to be able to switch to linux. I can live without VST / AU.

    A lot of Ableton users are also programmers and "makers", especially in conjunction with Max/MSP or PureData so I guess there are a lot of people hoping for Ableton on Linux.

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • kingmoksha
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    I'ts a pity ableton doesn't consider to release Live on Linux. Since Windows 10 I'm likely to move to another software. I use Windows just for Live and all the other things I do on Linux. Me too, I don't mind if the plugins won't work on Linux.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • madeluxe
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    +1 for Live and M4L on Linux.

    after my macbook died, i switched to thinkpad and ubuntu. and it is the best i ever could do. even an ardour dont let me miss logic/protools very much, after my live band projects get less. but what i REALLY miss, is a version of ableton for linux. making/experimenting with electronic music, ableton became the heart of my sound-system. bitwig runs stable without issues, but i dont like the feel, and really want my ableton/push back... wine/virtualbox is no option for me.

    please feel free to join facebook-group:

    https://www.facebook.com/abletonlinux/

     

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • roby
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    That would be great. I would love to switch between doing dev work and audio work without having to switch OSs

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • taka_perry
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    Probably not. However, with Bitwig being released with native Linux support, I think there is a slow but definite rise in popularity of Linux as a music production OS. Still, even if Ableton supported Linux, then question would then be for all the third party plugins..

    2 years ago | 1 comment
  • maxime.levesque
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    I would love to use ableton on linux !!!

     

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • S.Rueckwardt
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    Me too, LINUX with stabil midi audio driver system that is for pro audio...yeah ...

     

    best regard

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • r25d01
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    Same here. My next computer is very likely to run on Linux but I'd love to keep working with Live.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Florent Guiral
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    +1 for Linux.

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • OMss
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    +1 for Linux 

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • aschneider
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    +1. Please drop 32-Bit and embrace Linux for Live 10.

    PS.  It is noted that an answer was already provided.

     

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • Johey
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    I would upgrade my Live Intro to Suite any day if supported on the GNU/Linux platform. Now I am considering switching to Bitwig, or Renoise for that matter. Live is better for my workflow though, but for the cost of running Windows (or, worse, Mac) I'm seriously considering switching.

    Ardour is going strong of course, but not really suited for live usage.

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  • Baddcr
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    +1 again!!

     

    Windows is long dead. Apple are on their way out... Linux is the future!

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • expoldingpumpkin
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    Another 1+... another 1+... for linux!

     

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  • 1337ingDisorder
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    I purchased a copy of Ableton Live 4 many years ago. I upgraded to version 5 for free, but then Ableton started charging for further updates. That's reasonable though, given how much is added to the platform with each version.

    However, shortly after version 5 came out, I migrated to Linux, and I've been using Linux ever since. I considered purchasing Live 6, but with no Linux version available I didn't feel like it was worth spending the money.

    Having made the transition, and having come to understand all the benefits of running Linux, I now see that Windows is an absolute joke of an operating system. Windows was great in the 20th century, but with the leaps and advancements that have been made in open-source operating systems in the 21st century, even Windows 10 seems like an archaic relic of times past.

    The result of all this is that I have chosen not to purchase any upgrades to Ableton Live since version 5, because there is *still* no native Linux installer. 

    Year after year I keep coming back and checking, hoping that I might be able to purchase the latest version of Ableton Live, but year after year I am disappointed to find no Linux version of Ableton is available, and I spend my money on other things.

    Hopefully the wise men and women at Ableton will join the rest of us in the 21st century, and will release a Linux-friendly version 10. When they do, I'll be first in line to purchase a copy.

    Until then, all I can do is wait with a big wad of money in my pocket.

    1 year ago | 1 comment
  • audiofeen
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    I really think it's high time you started to take linux seriously and develop a version, we should be doing everything we can to use a custom tuned operating system for audio and not some mass produced buggy as hell version of osx or windows. 

    if not then i'll be soon switching to bitwig and i'm a macintosh technician. 

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  • Omniand
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    We have had a chicken and egg problem with software like Live for some time now. Software developers look at the small user base of Linux and so they don't release  their software on it and users look at Linux and don't use it because it doesn't have their software on it. If Ableton is looking forward though, they really need to release for Linux if they want Live to be viable for actual "live" performance on a stage. Here's why.

    Both Apple and Microsoft have entirely stopped caring about the the creative professionals that depend on those systems. At this point, Apple pricing has risen dramatically without significant improvements that would be appealing to a musician, especially a live performer, while ignoring or actually exacerbating the issues that exist. Instead, they're spending their time pushing shorter and shorter product lifespans and designing their products to force people to buy new. This could be tolerable if the product was significantly improved but at this point what do we have...the same issue of old, slower hardware (at insane markups) and the removal of the ports we depend on.

    People have thousands, sometimes tens of thousands into their audio interfaces. The interface, not the laptop (or studio desktops) are the heart of our setups. And now we have to either buy a new interface from a relatively small selection of Thunderbird offerings, possibly none of which fit our needs as well as the one we have (very true in my case last I looked), or we run it through a dongle...which can be a complete nightmare, and who wants that additional point of failure on a stage? And the risk of misplacing that small device while in transit and being unable to even attempt to perform! There is much more to go into with Apple, like longstanding bugs in core audio and surprisingly bad low-latency performance compared with other OS's, but but this path alone make them non-viable imho.

    As for Microsoft, we now have Windows 10. While I have very capable PC hardware that totally covers my needs, I have spent more and more time fighting the attempts of Windows to stop me from using it to make music. This started with Windows Vista and has continued to the present day. Yes, Win 7 was better than Vista by far, but it was still a bloated resource hog trying to do a bunch of stuff in the background automatically that served no purpose for me and just got in the way.

    I had trimmed Win XP Pro down to 5 processes at boot. My dpc latency was hair thin and had absolutely no spikes whatsoever from the OS idling. I squeezed surprisingly good performance out of the slow hardware I had at the time. Win 7, could never get anywhere near that, and now with Win 10 it's a complete nightmare. When putting a physical instrument through the rig and out live, this is a huge problem, and I have spent far more time with each new Windows version trying to get it out of the way and have gotten worse and worse results for my efforts.

    But, that's not even the part that makes me say Windows is now non-viable. It's "Windows as a service"... it used to be the Pro version of Windows more or less gave you the control offered in the Enterprise version, but for a single computer, so without all the stuff for deploying a bunch of them at a company. Now, they've taken away that control. In fact, there were things you could control in the Home version of past Windows you can't in the Pro one now. Most importantly, updates. You cannot manually control updates. And, it will forcefully install new drivers at it's discretion along with those updates. I have to mark my wifi as metered to block it from updating altogether to get around this as it has completely hosed my setup on more than one occasion. As in, the interface didn't work at all and instead crashed the computer... and it took me hours to fix.

    Further, it is constantly dialing home to send Microsoft information about what you're doing. Setting aside the serious issues with them data mining their users without disclosing exactly what they're taking and not allowing users to fully opt out, and possibly working around common attempts to block it (such as how they made it possible for the OS/software to ignore the Hosts file), this activity is just more crap running in the background unpredictably. There is so much stuff trying to run on its own it's a complete nightmare. I have beastly enough hardware with which to accommodate the insane amount of harmful bloat in Win 10 but when pushing sub 10 ml round trip latencies this really matters. With far more effort I've only managed to hack this down a small fraction of what I used to.

    And, Windows is a horribly insecure operating system, so having it connected to the net without updates is dangerous, so if I feel like being able to look at some online help for something I'm working on, I now have to borrow another computer or use my phone.

    When performing I of course have the wifi card and such disabled, but the risk of briefly connecting to the internet for some reason and having it take 4 hours forcefully auto-updating at an inopportune time, finally getting back in just to discover they quietly, without my permission changed all my settings throughout Windows back to what Microsoft wants (including uploading their updates to random people online etc etc) and that it has broken a bunch of things while adding new "features" that could further hose a setup that used to work... it's absolutely unacceptable.

    And every time an update occurs... EVERY TIME... I have to recheck every single setting and tweak, because they routinely reset things to how they wish they were. I get that an update could overwrite an unofficial tweak, and that they reinstall the software I've hacked out (because they won't allow me to uninstall...), but changing settings I've explicitly set in the the control panel is possibly illegal behavior. It's certainly unethical at the least. I mean, they lost in court over years back over just bundling an internet browser with Windows and now not only are they bundling a browser but they've made it officially non-removable! And, oh yeah, I've had it cause crashes with other software until I hacked it out!

    Windows 10 is an absolute nightmare for musicians. Having to take "feature" updates that do nothing to help you make music and can actually degrade the ability to do so just to get the much needed security and bug fixes for this bloated, broken and insecure OS is ridiculous. Musicians want to set it up, and if it's working, not change it until they have a good reason and some downtime. The OS is there to provide a foundation so we can run software. That's all we need it for. That's not what Microsoft wants for it now.

    Once again, there's a lot more I could go into here, like how they've literally started pushing 3rd party software to our machines without permission (and for which they can't even properly vouch for the functionality and security of the proprietary code, like Candy Crush for example, some of which has started to run a process in the background at boot even though the software had never been launched!), and how I've had to change my method of preventing this as their updates block the method I'd previously used, but I have to stop somewhere.

    And it's only going to get worse. For them moment people are using their older Macs or Windows 7, but that can't last forever. Microsoft will phase Win 7 out from the general public as soon as it possibly can. Heck, people have turned on their rigs to surprised discover they'd been "upgraded" to Windows 10. Microsoft's business model is shifting and it is not good for musicians. So, where will we go?

    Linux. Yes, it has it's own set of challenges and quirks, but it is by far the best OS/ecosystem in place to fill the void. Even a non pro-audio distro like Mint uses less than half the system resources of Windows 10 and is completely under the control of the user. At this point, I've switched all of my computing to Linux, except I have a Win installation just for playing games I can't run on Linux yet and one just for music. If Ableton doesn't come around on it, it hurts their user base, and down the road they will likely be playing catch-up as the experience on Win/Mac continues to degrade.

    If Live 10 were functionally no different from 9 whatsoever, but was released on Linux, I would happily upgrade before it launched. In fact, I'd pay full price again just to get that. So, I won't be upgrading to Live 10. It makes me sad, as I love Live and Max (I have the full version of Max as well...which I also want on Linux!). But, I've drawn a line in the sand, I don't buy software that doesn't have a proper Linux release. I am done wasting my time trying to make Windows usable. I'm done feeling like I am at war with the developers of my operating system. I'd rather spend that time trying to figure out ways of doing what I want on Linux. Sure, I've had to put in some effort to figure out a few issues with Linux, but I feel like the developers are on my side for the first time in years.

    LTS (Long Term Service) releases go for 3, often 5 years. So, you can install the OS and get the little security and bug fixes and continued software support for 5 years without updating the kernal or adding new "features" to the OS and other such things that are more likely to break things. You have absolute control over all updates and the system is far more tweakable than Windows. Chances are, if it's not behaving the way you want, there's a way to get it with instructions and/or programs already available in the ecosystem...for free even, of course.

    Ableton, you could pick any distro you want and only officially support that one and I'll install it in a heartbeat. I would bet that the audio-oriented ones would even happily work with you to get Live running well on their releases and test their new updates against Live to be sure it doesn't screw something up. The audio-oriented distros come all set up with the kernal set to low-latency mode etc etc and work to keep updated versions of audio software in their repositories, making keeping up on updates easier across the board. In fact, you could offer a distro from your own software download system with Live preinstalled and configured even. If you want to actually innovate, don't just give us some new synths, some tweaked gui and workflow improvements or claim improvements "under the hood" ... become a leader again, regardless of whether the money people think it will provide the largest dividends to your shareholders, make the smart long-term choice and release on Linux. Nearly every electronic musician I talk to is using Mac or Windows but says they're sick of them and would prefer to use Linux. Build it, and they will come.

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  • technoraver
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    Also ich sehe das genauso es wäre echt Super wenn Ableton für Linux rauskommt da das

    1. Ableton mehr Gewinn bringen würde

    2. Linux attraktiver macht was wieder die Folge hat das sich mehr Leute Ableton kaufen da sie vllt vorher Windows/Mack hatten (Linux eigentlich wollen) und sie dann Linux mit Ableton bekommen

     

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • jagmogley
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    I would really love a version of ableton live on linux...

    seeing as how I paid (a lot of money) for it,

    my vote should count for every dollar I spent.

    I have appreciated the update at no extra cost,

    I also liked the push but went through hard times and had to practically give it away at a pawn-shop

    life was just really hard for a long time...

    I guess what I am trying to say is thank you ableton for keeping me out of trouble,

    even though you were giving a mile at a time when I wanted the whole world.

    Sincerely,

    Jag Mogley

     

    2 years ago | 1 comment
  • Rokibla
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    +1 for linux!
    I have this idea of a standalone ableton system and with the imminent arrival of udoo x86 this idea is getting quite possible... and i find in linux it is a lot easyer to implement such things...

    1 year ago | 0 comments
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    +1 for linux

     

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  • Nibble
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    +1 for linux..badly

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  • mighty666
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    Also +1 from me.

    I'm totally fed up with MacOS. Mavericks was the last step I've made and I definitely won't go any further. I've made the decision now to go back to Linux, an OS I've always enjoyed.

    I had a look at Bitwig and in my opinion Live is the better product that I'd really like to stay with. Nevertheless, at the moment, Bitwig is the only option I have on Linux and I'm afraid, I reluctantly have to take that step :-(

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  • Baddcr
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    Agreed... MacOS is getting worse, iOS is slowly driving me nuts too!

    The worst part is the 'forced hand' aspects of it all, as someone who takes a lot of time and attention to get things right this is just insulting, not to mention that it is extremely aggressive behaviour. The next series of macOS releases really should be named after famous psychopaths.

    Ableton is pretty much the only thing that's stopping me from making the jump, I too don't want to switch to Bitwig, but if it comes to it, I will do it and just live with it. I sincerely hope the is never necessary because I love Ableton.

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  • noroutine
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    Vote up for Live on *nix

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  • Titor
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    +1 for a Linux compatable Live! Long time Windows XP and 7 user but will not switch to 10. Windows has turned into a real hassle. I've been using linux and really like how everything works but miss using Ableton Live. Linux Mint has been my favorite OS.

    1 year ago | 2 comments
  • Maxadax
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    Another vote from me. I'm in the process of building a high end GNU/Linux workstation right now and I'll stick with Ableton Live over Bitwig if Ableton come out with a version for Linux systems. I'd prefer to not have to change DAW, but I feel I need to change OS.

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • mattgilbert
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    +1 for Live and M4L on Linux.

    This has been a long time coming, and as Apple gets more and more resentful of it's own long-term customers, many of us are shifting over to Linux for good.

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • gioeleb00
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    +1 for Live and Max on Linux

    Linux for me has better compatibilty with external devices, because it is still in development and it is a very good alternative to Mac os X

    1 year ago | 0 comments
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    +1 for Live Linux

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  • patdee07
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    +1 for Ableton on Linux!

    Computer Science/Software Development makes you go Linux in the long run.

    Only reason to keep Windows is Ableton... Linux Bitwig sucks .. 

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  • curiousdan
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    +1 for Linux! The moment I'll see Ableton on Ubuntu, kxstudio or other I'll say goodbye to Windows. 

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  • twisted-space
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    Just wanted to add my voice to the call for Ableton and Cycling'74 to add Linux support.

    I've moved away from microsoft for my everyday computing (though I do microsoft/windows admin and support for a living). Only thing I have windows on is my music production laptop

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • _Oliver_
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    +1 for live on linux! It even sounds good. I need this in my life. 

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    + 1 For Linux!!!

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  • chrisw63
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    +1 for Ableton Live 10 on Linux!

    Ardour (LINUX DAW) has had VST support for a while now:

    http://manual.ardour.org/working-with-plugins/windows-vst-support/

    So its not only possible, its been done.  That said, it is kind of a hack that requires WINE and a specially compiled Ardour to work.  I'm sure the main barriers to such a thing are the file system / device handling.

    I have to wonder how easy it would be to make a 'VST cross compiler'.  The main audio bit manipulation code wouldn't need much work.  The I/O sections, file and audio, would be the sticky points. Well, if you can get past the 'sticky point' of making the VST creators care about Linux, anyway...

     

    1 year ago | 1 comment
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    +1 for Ableton Live on Linux!

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    +1 ableton linux... beyond that... an ableton linux distribution would be a dream... can imagine an SO and DAW integrated in one? 

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  • stubiklaus
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    Definitly +1,

    Yesterday i switched from ubuntu to wiindows 10 again just to be able to make music on the go.

    Today after a big windows 10 update the Media Feature Pack got uninstalled and i can't open projects with max for live anymore.

    After the great Windows 8.1, Windows 10 is a step back in my opinion, and i would love to use ableeton on linux.

     

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    Sorry Ableton, but I'm out of here. Got Bitwig Studio now on Linux. The workflow is really similar, and while there is sometime a lack of a few options, it seems a little bit more that there is a real development ongoing.

    Cya.

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    +1 from me,

    Fed up with MacOS, still loving Ableton since I discover Bitwig... I'll try it, because I HAVE TO use Linux...

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    +1 for linux. 

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    + 1 for linux.

    love live but I can't stand the wired policy of windows any more. installed Ubuntu Studio on my old laptop and it works great. bitwig, u-he, ardour do a great job on linux.
     

    release a linux version soon, pls!

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    +1 for Ableton Linux version

     

    Slowly switching over to Linux. Would be great to have Ableton run natively with my other audio tools I'm building. Please consider porting it over. Thanks!

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    Option A) Apple stop the route they are going and forcing the invasive social media bullshit and start taking care of professional users again and I can continue using their products, otherwise they are dead to me and are reduced to a silly and amusing fun consumer product. Fair enough, business is business and they just want to make money, not pander to the needs of a tiny minority of their consumer base.

    Option B) Microsoft continue with their promising developments picking up where Apple have left off and also lose the invasive social media bullshit and I may consider a switch back.

    OK, I'm dreaming... we all know these two companies are both evil and hell bent on probing your ass as deep as they can (boy do they love sticking their finger in and sucking it!) and as such any right thinking people will be avoiding them altogether and using whatever tools they can to fight this cancer eating away at humanity and moral decency.

    So the future is clear for me:

    Ableton have precisely until my current Macbook Air dies. I have stuck on 10.9.5 (the last decent OS from Apple) and will run this computer into the ground until it is no longer fit for purpose.

    After that I switch to Linux. If Ableton have woken up and caught up and I can take Live with me, of the Wine port mentioned above proves stable enough, then great, otherwise I will sell my license and move to Bitwig or whatever is hot on Linux at the time.

    Or who knows, maybe something else completely different is around the corner?

    Either way, never say never, anything is possible!

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    I'd be, unsurprisingly, 1+ for Live on Linux. I'd much rather use a high end chromebook with linux installed than a macbook that barely works anymore.

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    +1 for Linux support. It is becoming more and more necessary by the day.

    With the constant onslaught of new anti-user practices from both Microsoft and Apple with regards to their desktop operating systems, Linux is steadily gaining favorability even among non-enthusiasts.

    Personally, Ableton Live is the single thing preventing me from leaving macOS and Windows for some Linux distribution. I know that it's a pipe dream at this point in time, but the simple presence of Ableton on Linux would likely be the push that many other music and sound software development companies would need to start seeing Linux as a competitive (and necessary) platform.

    Please get on this, ASAP.

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    +1 for Linux.

    Because Microsoft will end up like MySpace sometime soon. :/

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    +1 for Ableton + M4L on Linux!!!!!

     

    I have already bought Live Standard, M4L and Sampler separately but would happily upgrade to suite for Linux support.

    Maybe you can offer Linux support as an incentive to update to suite since there aren't a lot of plugins available on Linux ATM. Alternatively maybe you can start a crowd funding campaign to guage interest and generate a financial incentive up front to justify the effort to port the software.

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    +1 for me too. I'm still on a Mac because I can't live without Live.

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  • AllyssDeViante
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    +1 for Live & M4L on Linux

    Live is the only reason for me to have Windows installed on my machine. :/

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    +1 for Live & M4L running on Ubuntu.  

    I have been an Apple user since the Apple II+ (Live user since 4) and after a few years of displeasure, it's time to leave (ever since Steve died the place has gone to hell!).  I work in Windows at my day job and know it well, don't want to switch to that at home as I like Windows even less than OSX/iOS.  

    So Ubuntu/Linux is where I am gravitating, for a community of users who seem to care about who is controlling their data interactions and digital assets!

    Given that OSX is UNIX, I would hope the port from UNIX to Linux/Ubuntu would be fairly easy.

    Please support it moving forward!

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  • demonicsweaters
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    Please please please Ableton gods, give us a native Linux version! I rarely use ableton much these days because I hate having to boot into mac os. Everything else I do is in Linux, and it just is annoying to have to completely boot up a different system just to run one program, albeit a great one, but still. I would literally buy it a second time just for the Linux version. 

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    Microsoft has gone too far with Windows 10, forcing upgrades and reboots against my wishes. I am so infuriated at Windows that I want to switch to Linux. Please reconsider making a native Linux version of Ableton Live!!!

    The sentiment against Windows 10 is growing more and more widespread, and Microsoft is only getting bolder with their intrusions into my privacy and security. The market for Linux is growing. Capture it with your awesome program!

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    Ableton is the only reason I still have a Windows partition on my workstation, for everything else I have switched completely to Linux. I think there has been a recent surge in interest in using Linux for audio work, as both Apple and Microsoft seem increasingly intent on abandoning pro users (as well as pushing out unstable/broken updates). With Steinberg's recent release of their VST SDK for Linux, I would expect the plugin ecosystem to improve, and so it seems the ideal time for Ableton capitalize on the growing Linux market.

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  • Chiefolaf
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    Another +1 for Linux support.

    Like others suggested I also signed up for their beta purely to inform them of this issue.

    https://ableton.centercode.com/welcome/

    Editing to add:

    You have to join a project (e.g. Live 10 beta) to be able to make suggestions, I accidentally used the 'contact us' button first.  Not particularly straightforward for what is a simple request, in terms of question/answer not development effort obviously!

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    +1 for Linux.

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    Just to remind you guys that you can upvote this at the Ableton Beta forums:

    https://goo.gl/HYQHgx

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • benoit.leteneur
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    +1 for Ableton Linux version

    I thought I was going to buy the new MBP to replace my 2010 one. No way.

    It's unbelievable for me to buy a laptop with windaube 10 (French humour) .

    So ? No more Ableton future proof laptop for me ?

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  • m00dawg
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    I too would love Linux support and, in fact, I just noticed Linux Mint 18 supports my Saffire Pro 40 out of the box. I am on Live 8 so I'm about in range of an upgrade at this point, but am also in a good position to start to evaluate other solutions (some of which do run in Linux). Not meant to be a threat, just pointing out Linux is among (but not the only) nice to have feature when I look to see what tools fit me best. If Live had a Linux version, I would be all over it.

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    Come on Ableton!  Go Linux...    do you really want to tie your product to the vagaries of a behemoth like Apple or Microsoft..... Linux is forever...

    Like has been said....  Roll your own "Ableton Ubuntu Linux" distro if need be.... just go for it!    I know you have the power ;).

    1 year ago | 1 comment
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    +1 for Live on Linux.

    I use all three major desktop oses daily. I would let both Windows and macOS go if Ableton had live released for linux.

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    +2 here.  I ony run unix/linux at home, and we love to make music together.

    I just managed to get Live 9.7 Lite to run on the newest AVlinux (Audio Visual Linux, based on Debian testing) with the latest Wine.  Just offering some setup like that as iso or docker would be a great guesture by Ableton.  See http://mark.overmeer.net/ableton/

    1 year ago | 1 comment
  • neronoia
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    + 1, I would definitely be in for Ableton and M4L for Linux. This is what is stopping me more about completely switching to Linux. I think that this could really persuade other companies to think about Linux as a new direction in music production. Expecially now that the new MacBook pro are clearly not designed for creative applications: this could be a revolution.

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    Ableton you can see the potential for support here, put it to a Kickstarter if the money is lacking for development. The community would pay for it, plese try!

    Many argue over which is beter, Mac or Win. I think they both suck equally and we need Linux to save the day. If there were support for Ableton in linux, I would have made the jump already.

    As with everyone else here, I will go with you if you go to linux. please do, I will happily pay for a linux crossgrade.

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  • cheakypawl
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    You know what..?
    This is not going to happen. Not anytime soon anyway.
     
    Ableton will not say as much because they would alienate everyone here that's interested. Ableton won't dump us because they like the benefits friends bring.
     
    They almost certainly have enormous pressure from Apple & Microsoft to not offer a version. Of course Ableton have the money, resources, and time to release a Linux version.
     
    A great Linux audio DAW that fits the LIVE user form is being developed, surely you can bet, somewhere, and when it's released - Ableton will have to capitulate.
    This could be the highest followed, most upvoted, most commented post - Ableton are not going to change soon.
    Sorry for the bad news.
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    +1, The only reason I haven't fully moved to Linux is Ableton. I won't be replacing my Mac when it dies.

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    I think I probably already posted here but I would like to show support (again) for Live on Linux. My workstation computer runs Ubuntu and after recently looking into Windows I refuse to install that garbage OS and support that Goliath company. Forced updates/restarts, closed source shifty OS and all the rest that goes with it doesn't make sense to me.

     

    I don't know how much longer I can live within Mac OS either. I don't think I like the direction their hardware's going much at all.

     

    If there's no Ableton Live on Linux within the year I'll be fully converted to Bitwig. There are many of us jumping ship from Windows and OS X and I think Ableton are shooting themselves in the foot a bit by not adapting quickly enough to the changes. I personally hope (and expect) the GNU/Linux world will take a sizeable chunk out of Microsofts monopoly and this will mean that software companies will need to bring support across platforms.

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    What the fuck are you developers thinking . Look at divinci resolve linux. I was a mac user i had a power outage lost 14 drives of abelton sessions i will never go back to a mac hfs+ journaled partions. Your fucking stupid abelton not to be on zfs with rsync and connecting with nfs transfers and allowing or puporsly making this a clusterable multigpu borrowing tool. This is the future dont be left beiind or ill make it and youll be out the market share again please wake up. Linux has taken a hold and feeebsd freenas trueos ubuntu debian centos rocks and. Digits dev box are making people understand the supercomputer is here. Weather single work station or cluster of old computers . We are here in the future dealing with biff from back to the future for president time for a ableton os

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    Long-time Ableton user here, I really want to use my Linux machines for more audio work rather than my ageing Win xp setup.  I refuse to upgrade Windows any further - simply not worth my time as I can use Wine for any development work, I think a port to Linux is long overdue.

    Bottom line - Ableton are loosing out on market share, if Bitwig can manage it then so can Ableton!

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    Ableton should have own linux distribution. Ableton OS

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    Ableton for Linux!
    I use ableton for live performance but if it was for Linux I would be much more confident in this with huge projects. Not to mention it would set ableton apart from the rest and spawn more power users and increase innovation. Please do this!

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    one up!

    +1 for Live and M4L on Linux

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  • motley-fesst
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    +1 to have this amazing DAW on Linux! If Ableton needs help with testing it on Linux I would be happy to do this.

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • deepelectricblue
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    +1 I rarely use Ableton Live for a while now, only because it's on windows and I quit using it as many people have. Ableton Live is important software that has to work on Linux or otherwise we'll all switch to linux alternatives like Ardour, Qtractor or something similar and help those open source projects raise to level of Live.

    We all love Live, but you will either listen to your users community or end up like a legend.

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    Please! Please! Please! PLEASE! I so want to move away from microsoft windows.

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    I think most of us want to use Ableton with Linux for the confidence of a stable platform. We all know that not every other software capable of slaving/bridging over to Ableton will make the switch to Linux. Therefore, producing in Ableton with the desired software on mac/win makes sense; BUT, making a performance focused 'Ableton Linux DAW distro' where we can just move our project over for a stable performance would be extremely beneficial and set Ableton apart from the rest.

    1 year ago | 1 comment
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    If you'd support GNU/Linux, I'd happily buy Suite with M4L. Simply because the options on that platform are limited. In Windows and MacOS, Suite/M4L has great competition.

    For what it's worth, I'll be switching (back) to GNU/Linux this year. With or without Ableton. For my continued support, you'd need to follow along.

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  • dorianjames
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    +1 for Linux.
    Companies really need to the potential for Linux. They could come up with a whole distro suited for Ableton. I would suggest LiveOS but I think that might already taken.

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    +7

    I installed Windows 10. It#s the same mess as before even if a little bit more performant. Of course it does not only depend on Ableton but maybe some software companies are also able to convince MAXMSP and a lot of non concurrent VST processes to load into memory under no office OS from microsoft. This would really be more creative and of use for a musician especially since don't know how to be called books containing usable OSX unix derivate are designed to be thrown out of a window from the beginning. I remember watching someone using ableton with Logic side by side years ago. Anyway I do not believe that there will be linux releases anymore because a lot of companies had to play together for musicians. I also found this: https://www.change.org/p/native-instruments-make-linux-a-viable-platform-for-musicians-by-porting-professional-audio-plugins unfortunately too late. So my guess is that this needs a even new organization of musicians to not only demand but develop usable software standards to communicate with each other. So maybe that way around? Sound needs to go through not only many different ears but also machines.

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    Another vote for Linux! I've been a long time Windows user but as someone already mentioned in this thread, I don't like like buying into "as a Service" type OS so my next machine will almost certainly be running on Linux. Would be a pain to have to DualBoot just for Live.

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    QUOTE FROM EMAIL:

    Hi all,
     
    Thanks for your feedback on Live and Linux.
     
    The best place to submit feature requests and wishes is on Centercode. Once you register, go to "Suggestions" and you can add your request there.
     
     

    What are you talking about... could you be any more insulting? Can you not read and take notice here? Do you have some kind of problem where you can't read on this page? If so please go and get a colleague to help you read it because it has taken YEARS to get this many comments here and I for one am fucked if I am going registering for yet another goddam service and typing this into some other place just to satisfy some weird protocol for making requests.

    Or are you using this as a way to disregard everything that's been said here? If so that's just pathetic... if you don't want to bring Live to Linux just say so then we can all fuck off sell our licenses and go somewhere else and use Bitwig or something.

    Sorry for being angry but this has to be one of the STUPIDEST support responses I have ever seen - you are a total discredit to Ableton and you should be ashamed of yourself!!

    Oh and do-not-reply email addresses have to be the PERFECT way to say "FUCK OFF WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY!"

    You might as well have just sent an email saying... "oh fuck off you cunts!"

    I am utterly appalled!

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    I have to agree with Baddcr.

    Total brush-off from Ableton. This response hasn't just turned me off Live, it's turned me off Ableton as a company. 

    Release a linux version or don't, at this point I don't care any more cause I'm not giving Ableton another dime. They missed their window.

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    I'll also point out that with just the 100 users in this thread, at $500 each that's $50,000 Ableton is turning down by acting like dicks. (And that's not counting the thousands of other Linux-using musicians who haven't found this thread.)

    Smart move, Ableton... (smh)

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    I don’t get why you get so angry Baddcr… Indeed It would have been nicer if support added to his comment "I’ve added this request at centercode, but please use centercode for your next requests " but is this a reason to be so mad ?

    and 1337ingDisorder… sadly we’re only about 100 users here. That’s nothing in comparison with the millions of users of live. Anyway I still hope for a linux version ;)

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    Hey, its so cool to see, that we are around 100 now. As said before, i openend a facebook-site for this topic, where we can share experience and wishes. maybe this bring some ideas together.

    https://www.facebook.com/abletonlinux/

    and second i run this blog, sadly i had not much time the last months, we i explain how you we can install live with the apps given right now on a linux system:

    http://liveonlinux.de/

    feel free to visit and give a command or some tips!

     

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  • smccarthy945
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    I would switch to Linux if I could run Ableton under Linux. I seriously considered moving to Bitwig because of the Linux support but I love Ableton too much and have too much invested. Please port to Linux!

    5 months ago | 0 comments
  • dejawu
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    +1 for Ableton native on Linux. I would even pay for Live Standard again just to support the effort.

    4 months ago | 0 comments
  • aton_elektronika
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    Bitwig Studio FTW after not a real answer for us....

    + it is really light programm ! :)

    a little harder to start with new DAW but it is very similar to ableton 

    3 months ago | 0 comments
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    + 1

    another user here getting sick of Apple. not being able to run Ableton is the only thing holding me back from getting linux.

    2 months ago | 0 comments
  • Claude•McCloud
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    Yes please

    1 month ago | 0 comments
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    +1 for Ableton on Linux

    Love Linux. Love Ableton

    1 month ago | 0 comments
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    I wonder how many people have dual boot just for Ableton. We should raise our voices.

    +1 for Ableton on Linux

    1 month ago | 0 comments
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    Adding my +1 for Linux! I don't think I'll be upgrading Live anymore until the most open environment is officially supported, which means I will likely have to find alternatives that I would definitely prefer not to use since I really like Live. I do not want the psychological burden of hauling around an unpredictable Windows machine or a luxury thief magnet Macbook to have a useable, reliable performance platform.

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    +1

    Come on Ableton! The only thing that is stopping me from enjoying GNU/Linux to it's full potential is Ableton. The FOSS counterparts such as LMMS and Ardour aren't even close to the sheer quality of Ableton. There is Bitwig however I believe it isn't worth investing in another piece of software for a hobbyist like myself.

    Make it happen developers!

    7 months ago | 0 comments
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    +1 here aye. Voice in the crowd

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  • nickp60
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    Ableton for linux would allow me to ditch OSX once and for all.  Please make a Linux release!!

    6 months ago | 0 comments
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    +1 for Ableton on Linux

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    Hi all,

    Thanks for your feedback on Live and Linux.

    The best place to submit feature requests and wishes is on Centercode. Once you register, go to "Suggestions" and you can add your request there.

    https://ableton.centercode.com/welcome/ 

    5 months ago | 1 comment
  • aton_elektronika
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    +10 for Ableton in linux

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  • Baddcr
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    live on Linux is never going to happen, Ableton are not interested in listening to what their customers have to say - all the proof you need of this is right here in this thread.

    I've moved on and haven't opened Live in over a month now - I am not missing it and in all honesty, my music is sounding a LOT better for it - what is it that Live does to audio that makes it sound worse than when it went in? I thought for ages it was the warp mode and you just need to turn it off, but having used other DAWs quite a bit now I am convinced there is a significant difference in audio quality.

    My advice, if you possibly can move on do so and forget Live - at the very least try something else - you might be surprised!

    4 months ago | 0 comments
  • quakeyjase
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    I really love Ableton Live. It is pretty much my dream software and I don't even have Push or Max for Live yet! But I have decided not to upgrade to Live 10, and I can't lie - the lack of support for Linux is an important factor in this decision. In fact Ableton Live is one of the few reasons I ever even boot into Windows 10 these days, and if it wasn't for Live I would probably abandon Windows for good.

    3 months ago | 0 comments
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    Dont understand why you dont even answer to us..

    1 month ago | 0 comments
  • oukourj
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    +1 for Ableton on Linux

    Just filled in the Suggestion in the Ableton Centercode

    https://ableton.centercode.com/welcome/

    All people who want to vote for it should write here AND fill in the suggestion there too.

    You have to create an account (it's not the same as here), but it's a fairly quick process.

    Then fill in the quick questionnaire about you becoming a beta-tester, and then when this is done you will have access to the menu to the left that says "Feedback=>Suggestions".

    Search for "Linux" and hit "Match".

    Add a comment too, there, to be sure to be heard.

    25 days ago | 1 comment
  • deepelectricblue
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    You do not believe that Ableton has product managers analyzing it's stats and reading this forum?
    Wouldn't following the statistics of what ppl want, and filling out the correct forms be his job?
    Note that this question has over 100 follow ups that is not something easy to missout when you got the forum backend under your fingertips.
    I suggest you do not waste time creating another registered user and filling out more forms.

    I guess Ableton doesn't have resources to develop Linux version and that's it. They just don't have the right programmers. Linux programmers are paid more, and I guess it is not in the company budget / skillset.

    We will need to continue to run Windows VMs / Wine or what not just run Ableton until someone takes it over finally. And it will happen eventually.

    Tia

    25 days ago | 1 comment
  • Leggo Hair
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    Ableton on Linux would deffo make me upgrade my ancient version. 
    I have been tryiing BitWig (Great but looking at it irritates me) and even Ardour.

    I will not ever buy another mac and gigging with windows makes me nervous.

    You know it makes sense.

    23 days ago | 0 comments
  • deepelectricblue
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    Come on now, let's all upvote Omniand latest post so it gets on top of this page as it deserves.

    17 days ago | 0 comments
  • SquimbellyToes
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    Hello Folks;

    There is a downside for MacOS users: Linux doesn't support Audio Units.

    A wrapper would need to be written, much like 32Lives, to run Audio Units in Linux.

     

    But, this hurdle being overcome, +1!

    17 days ago | 0 comments
  • bianka_loves_tech
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    +1 Ableton on Linux

    Perhaps you could release a Paid BETA of Linux version. That way users won't expect the moon at first, but at lease you give opportunity for open source community to patch underlying plumbing to enable high performance audio operations required by Live. 

    17 days ago | 0 comments
  • publikvoid
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    +1

     

    The ONLY reason I used MacOS and/or Windows in the past years is because I love Ableton Live. 

    3 days ago | 0 comments
  • deepelectricblue
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    Linux music software got an upgrade - checkout https://www.mindmusiclabs.com/

    3 days ago | 1 comment

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