How do I get Ableton to accept midi mappings?

So I have a few Akai controllers including the APC20, LPD8, and MPK61.  Unless I figure out which CCs go to things I can't seem to get Midi mapping to work.  I've looked around and can't find a solution.  

 

Here's an example.  Say I create an Audio Effect Rack or something, anything, with turnable knobs, buttons, etc.  When I switch on Midi Mapping and select the item then turn a knob on one of these controllers, I get the incoming Midi message light in Live but no change or notice that the mapping is being read.  I've tried setting the 3 'USER' banks on the APC20 for the faders for this but they never seem to control anything.  The midi light again comes on showing that signals are coming through, but the channels won't pick them up.  HELP Please!!!  This is driving me crazy as I slowly learn how to use Live.  While I see it has lots of potential for me, and my controllers, this is a BIG stumbling block I can't seem to get past.  The user guide also sheds little light on what to do here.  It's as if some other preset prevents any changes.

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monkeymoda 2 years ago | 2 comments

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  • monkeymoda
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    Can't believe I couldn't figure this out before so I hope it helps you.  I reread the manual in several places and went through the mapping trying to track down the answer.

     

    Solution:  It's simple really.  Because those devices are Instant Mapped and typically act in a certain way, you have to manually override them by setting Ableton to remote mode in the Midi Sync options.  Basically, open up preferences, make sure the Remote selection in the lower "Manual" setup area is selected as ON along with the Track setting being ON.  Also, to get feedback to the devices, make sure the Output is also set ON for Remote and Track.  

     

    This fixed my problems with both devices not mapping so far.  Hope it helps you as well.

    2 years ago | 1 comment
  • mic67
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    Monkeymoda you're a star! Thanks for that, your fix sorted exactly same issue out for me!

    10 months ago | 0 comments
  • cygnal
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    For smaller controller, you also have "User Remote Scripts" function, where you could create your own kind of "instant mappings", by defining the CC numbers for different built-in classes of controls, and be able to lock devices to it (that is one of the benefit of instant mappings).

    If you select "remote", you basically tell Ableton that the device you are using is able to send CCs, and any control you override becomes a generic CC control.

    However, I had a problem with my Korg nanoKontrol2. If I override the faders on that one, and it is also used as an instant mapping device, the movement of the faders would "select" or rather "switch to" the track that was assigned in the instant mapping. That is why I HAD to create my own "User Remote Script", to avoid that happening. Because the nanoKontrol2 is not officially supported as an instant mapping device, I guess it's OK. But when LPD8 got officially supported, I got a bit upset, since I bought the nanoKontrol2 to replace my broken LPD8. 

    Oh well...

    10 months ago | 0 comments
  • ra78
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    Yep. Remote On in Preferences works. Though Ableton tech support when solving one of the problems I had adviced me to switch it off. Donno why. Still for manual mapping I have to use Remote On.

     

    10 months ago | 0 comments
  • Audioaviator
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    Thanks for that - was doing my head in!

    2 months ago | 0 comments
  • bijoud
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    Monkeymoda you saved my bacon. Thank you

    3 days ago | 0 comments
  • AccidentPr0ne
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    Ive been having the same the same problem with my apc20, it might just not work. i've had mine for a year. it might be that the built in automap feature is overriding something. sorry i couldn't help :P

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • mc1392
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    wow, that worked!

    2 years ago | 0 comments

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