How can I get PUSH to recognize an Instrument Rack as a Drum Rack?

What I mean is I have a percussion oriented instrument rack with all of my desired fx saved as I want them (I use these to create beats). But when I open it Push thinks it is a melodic instrument and won't display it in the 4 quadrant drum rack format. I want it to behave as a drum rack on my Push. Any ideas on how to make this happen?

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unitshift 2 years ago | 0 comments

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  • unitshift
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    Anyone encountering this problem at all??

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • carlosbeans
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    I FINALLY got PUSH in the mail today so I'm trying it out for the first time and yeah, I'm having the same problem.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • ioscommuter
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    I had this issue, and I think ableton should provide better documantation on this, but its simple to set up:

    1. put an empty drum rack in a midi channel

    2. put your non-ableton vst in another midi channel

    3. in your vst channel route midi from: drum rack, set monitor to "in" (this is done in a part of the track that may be hidden by default, press the tiny "i-o" circle on the bottom right in ableton).

    4. activate the drum rack channel, play push and it is triggering your vst.

    2 years ago | 1 comment
  • cementdrums
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    I got Push right when it came out.  I wanted to use the Superior Drummer plugin that I have and play it with the quadrant pads and step sequencer.  Push would recognize it as a melodic instrument.

     

    I was able to get past this a couple of different ways.  The best result was to put the Superior Drummer plugin into an instrument rack, then bring in a drum rack into the instrument rack, not an empty drum rack as this will replace the instrument rack.  Use an existing drum pack, anything will work.  I just grabbed an 808 from the drum machine pack and dragged it in. 

     

    I just muted the 808 in the instrument rack and voila, Superior Drummer can be played using Push's wonderful drum rack style pads.  Save and name the instrument rack and you will be able to access it from Push in the User menu under instrument racks.

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • kanelbulletaxen
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    Finally got my Push in the mail today too and after 20 minutes this is my only question. Everything else is so awesome I can't breathe.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • polser
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    Try ungrouping the instrument rack.

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • smbedzyk
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    This is similar to an answer above, however I found this solution to work best for me. 

    • set up your drum rack however you like on a given midi channel, say its on track 1.
    • in my case, I have an effects rack grouped with my drum rack, which makes it an instrument rack.
    • create a new midi track and drop a blank drum rack onto it, we'll call it track 2.
    • drag your original instrument rack (or drum rack) from track 1 into the C1 cell on the new drum rack on track 2.
    • In 9.1, Ableton will automatically map all your corresponding drum cells from the original drum rack onto the outer shell drum rack, even if your original drum rack is nested inside an instrument rack.  

    I had to find this work around because I intend to use the 8 macro knobs on push to alter parameters within the instrument rack, however I prefer the 4x4 grid for launching samples.  Mainly for the visual feedback push provides regarding a cell's content.

    I recommend Ableton create some sort of key combo that allows the user to enter into drum rack mode regardless of what type of instrument is on the midi track.  

    11 months ago | 0 comments
  • rabelais
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    It could be resolved in an easy way:

     

    1. put the drum rack onto channel

    2. add an external instrument into drum rack

    3. route external instrument into any third party plugin

    4. enjoy!:)

    1 month ago | 0 comments

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