Export changes pan and causes distortion

Hello, I've got my mix just the way I would like it, but the sound changes substantially on export (as WAV).

In particular the panning seems to be affected. There is still some stereo separation, but not as much - as if the panning settings were reduced greatly. (I tested this by panning an instrument all the way to one side - in the export it sounded more like a 50% pan)

There is also now some clipping, which I suspect is a consequence of this.

'Normalize' and 'Convert to Mono' are both set to off.

Any  idea what might be going on here? I've found a few threads on this topic but nothing that solves the problem.

Thanks!

(notes:  I am using Live 9 with Windows 7. I also notice a similar effect pre-export when listening directly through the computer speakers instead of through my I/O device. The Driver is MME/DirectX and the Speakers are Realtek High Definition Audio... I have check the speaker levels and they are both at 50%.)

 

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gntsketches 1 year ago | 0 comments

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  • mcbpete
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    What software are you using to play back the exported audio? Could it be that the music application (iTunes/Windows Media Player/VLC Player) is adding EQ and/or some sort of post-processing effect to it leading to sound different from when you're hearing it on Ableton ?

    As a test, after you've exported the .wav start a new blank ableton project and drag that wav file into a new audio track. Do you still get this issue ?

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • gntsketches
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    Great diagnostic test! My .wav sounds basically identical to the original master track! Identical panning and no distortion. 

    I also posted this in the forum and someone observed that it may be the windows audio drivers that are causing the problem:
    https://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=204383&sid=41ef9cfd53f1ee90567bfd9a80bec9e0

    Also, it sounds basically fine burned to CD. Maybe a just touch of distortion that's not there listening with my I/O device.

    Curious what a good solution to this would be, as who knows how many people will likely be listening with Windows audio drivers... I don't want to either mix for, or neglect, a particular platform.

    I'm inclined just to drop a couple decibels from the master and not worry about the panning.

    Any thoughts?




     

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • mcbpete
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    Could you maybe try installing a second media player (eg something like foobar2000 or VLC Player) - I'm suspecting that it's not the file that's the problem but whatever player you're using 

    1 year ago | 0 comments

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