Drum sample preview sounds (much) better than sample in drum rack... any fix?

Hi!

I'm having a tough time working with kick drum samples.  I have a bunch of samples that really sound great when I preview them in the Ableton browser, but once I drag the sample into either a simpler or a drum rack slot, the sound gets mangled immediately. 

Mainly there is very noticeable hiss and hum noise, it almost sounds like reverb, especially at the end of the sample. 

It's like the sample is "dry" in the Ableton browser, but gets "mucky" when dropped into a drum rack.

I've tried messing around with the various ADSR knobs/buttons on the simpler/drum rack, (only to make it sound worse in most cases), I've chopped off the tail of the wave file, I've thrown a de-esser on the track, with limited success, and have tried using compression and/or EQ to take out the hiss and hum noises, but so far nothing is working.

A friend of mine suggested turning off the warping engine, and I have gone ahead and tried every setting in the warping preferences, but it didn't help much.  Maybe took out about 5% of the hiss/hum noise with no warp on short sample/one shot.

Bottom line, how do I make the kick drum sample sound EXACTLY the same in my song as it does in the sample browser?  Not the volume, mind you, I know that the sample browser volume is far louder than the track volume.  That's fine, I just want the wav to sound the same in terms of, well, sounding the same.  The dry wave file has no hiss or hum that I can hear at all.  It's only audible in the simpler/drum rack.

Sorry to say this, but it sounds like crap, and this is getting frustrating because I can't use mangled noise in my songs!

Any ideas? 

Thanks!

PS: I couldn't be the first one to notice this...?

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lsc9x 3 years ago | 1 comment

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  • lsc9x
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    Aaaurrggh!

    I finally figured it out, and now I feel like a noob.

    The answer is that I was playing the imported kick drum on note C1 when the sample is actually native on C3.  Soon as I moved the notes from C1 to C3 it sounded 100% better.

    I'm used to coming from other programs where the sample you hear is what you get.  I forgot about the pitch shifting in Ableton.

    Oh well, maybe this will help someone else!

    =)

     

     

    3 years ago | 0 comments
  • jotalink
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    didn-t work for me and still dont know why when i load a sample in drumrack sounds totally different from the one i got in my finder window. Even if i set volume to 0 or 6 db or puting it in the right note or if i move velocity, in drumrack sounds totally different :-( how can i make drum rack not to change my sample?

    3 years ago | 0 comments
  • jotalink
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    Damn Ableton staff please do something, this is important guys. We were expecting this problem to be corrected in the upgrade but still have the same problem please help us

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Superblackstorm
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    I had this problem when I imported audio samples into a new audio track! Ableton 9 enabled fades by default on imported audio clips so check that out!

    Cheers.

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • infinitesinewave
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    I'm running into the same problem... I tried "transposing" the kick sample and also the volume. No dice. The "preview" sounds 10 times better. Any answers?

    3 years ago | 0 comments
  • jotalink
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     The "preview" sounds 10 times better. Any answers? from ableton support staff?

    3 years ago | 0 comments
  • Nino2333
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    Same problem for me...

    When I load my samples into the drumrack they sound totally different...

    I tried everything, is there something we can do not to change the original samples ?

    Nino.

    3 years ago | 0 comments
  • The Philosopher King
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    Same problem here on Live 9.0.5. The difference is like night and day.

    3 years ago | 0 comments
  • jotalink
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    http://quadrophone.com/velocity/ finally, but why Ableton didnt think about this

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • caitiffchoir
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    This is one of the reasons i stopped using ableton

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • jamitjames
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    Hi all,

    I'm posting this a year later than everyone else it seems...

    Has there been an outcome?

    The first person came on here and described the problem of importing samples onto the drum rack and having the imported sounds sound much worse than the previewed sounds. Then s/he posted saying there was a solution... unfortunately I don't understand how to implement this solution.

    Additionally, there are other people echoing the same complaint, but they don't refer to the follow up post by the original poster.

    I am experiencing the same problem, exactly, and I'm using Ableton Live Standard 9.2.2.

    Am I missing something in terms of a solution having been arrived at?

    The quadrophone link posted above is no longer active.

    This is a frustrating problem, really. I've just purchased Standard for $400 and being able to import sample sounds and have them sound as expected is quite fundamental to what we need. Another poster on here said this is why s/he stopped using Ableton altogether.

    Any news?

    Thx,

    James

    11 months ago | 0 comments
  • [daw] Ableton staff
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    Hi there, 

    Just jumping in real quick here from a support perspective. 

    We are not aware of such an issue, I assume this might be a question of transposing the samples or faulty default settings for drum racks / simpler / sampler, so it would be good for us to look at this on a case by case base.

    Please send in a small set, ideally consisting of one single track & sample, where this issue occurs. Make sure to save the set via collect all and save and send us the project folder zipped. 

    You can reach out to our support right here: 

    https://www.ableton.com/en/help/contact-support/

    Best, 

    David

     

     

    11 months ago | 0 comments
  • TedPilsner
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    I'll throw in my 2 cents.  

    I found this thread because samples previewed in my finder were loud and punchy, but then upon dropping them in to a drum rack, they became quiet and dull.  I found that adjusting the velocity in the editor made all the difference in the world.  It defaults to 0%, and I found that 55% seems to work the best for how dynamically I play the pads.  With the hardest hit, the sample sounds a bit louder than when previewed in the finder, which is perfect for the way I punch out beats.

    Hope this might help.

    10 months ago | 0 comments
  • joesnothome
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    I'm pretty new to Ableton and found this because I was having the same problem. Turns out I was changing eq and compression settings with my Novation Launch control in "template 3" (device control) without realizing it. I unplugged it, started a new drum rack on a different track and everything was fine. 

    6 months ago | 0 comments
  • Reydes
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    Check your release on the sampler, by default is very short. 

    4 months ago | 0 comments
  • Flange
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    same problem here

    2 years ago | 0 comments

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