Drum sample preview sounds (much) better than sample in drum rack... any fix?

Hi!

I'm having a tough time working with kick drum samples.  I have a bunch of samples that really sound great when I preview them in the Ableton browser, but once I drag the sample into either a simpler or a drum rack slot, the sound gets mangled immediately. 

Mainly there is very noticeable hiss and hum noise, it almost sounds like reverb, especially at the end of the sample. 

It's like the sample is "dry" in the Ableton browser, but gets "mucky" when dropped into a drum rack.

I've tried messing around with the various ADSR knobs/buttons on the simpler/drum rack, (only to make it sound worse in most cases), I've chopped off the tail of the wave file, I've thrown a de-esser on the track, with limited success, and have tried using compression and/or EQ to take out the hiss and hum noises, but so far nothing is working.

A friend of mine suggested turning off the warping engine, and I have gone ahead and tried every setting in the warping preferences, but it didn't help much.  Maybe took out about 5% of the hiss/hum noise with no warp on short sample/one shot.

Bottom line, how do I make the kick drum sample sound EXACTLY the same in my song as it does in the sample browser?  Not the volume, mind you, I know that the sample browser volume is far louder than the track volume.  That's fine, I just want the wav to sound the same in terms of, well, sounding the same.  The dry wave file has no hiss or hum that I can hear at all.  It's only audible in the simpler/drum rack.

Sorry to say this, but it sounds like crap, and this is getting frustrating because I can't use mangled noise in my songs!

Any ideas? 

Thanks!

PS: I couldn't be the first one to notice this...?

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lsc9x 1 year ago | 0 comments

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  • lsc9x
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    Aaaurrggh!

    I finally figured it out, and now I feel like a noob.

    The answer is that I was playing the imported kick drum on note C1 when the sample is actually native on C3.  Soon as I moved the notes from C1 to C3 it sounded 100% better.

    I'm used to coming from other programs where the sample you hear is what you get.  I forgot about the pitch shifting in Ableton.

    Oh well, maybe this will help someone else!

    =)

     

     

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • jotalink
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    Damn Ableton staff please do something, this is important guys. We were expecting this problem to be corrected in the upgrade but still have the same problem please help us

    4 months ago | 0 comments
  • jotalink
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    didn-t work for me and still dont know why when i load a sample in drumrack sounds totally different from the one i got in my finder window. Even if i set volume to 0 or 6 db or puting it in the right note or if i move velocity, in drumrack sounds totally different :-( how can i make drum rack not to change my sample?

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • infinitesinewave
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    I'm running into the same problem... I tried "transposing" the kick sample and also the volume. No dice. The "preview" sounds 10 times better. Any answers?

    8 months ago | 0 comments
  • jotalink
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     The "preview" sounds 10 times better. Any answers? from ableton support staff?

    8 months ago | 0 comments
  • Nino2333
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    Same problem for me...

    When I load my samples into the drumrack they sound totally different...

    I tried everything, is there something we can do not to change the original samples ?

    Nino.

    8 months ago | 0 comments
  • The Philosopher King
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    Same problem here on Live 9.0.5. The difference is like night and day.

    7 months ago | 0 comments
  • Flange
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    same problem here

    4 months ago | 0 comments
  • jotalink
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    http://quadrophone.com/velocity/ finally, but why Ableton didnt think about this

    4 months ago | 0 comments

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