CC data prints into Midi Clips MY BIGGEST GRIPE

Hopefully 9 has fixed this

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everytime i play with a synth (hardware analog, or hardware midi controller to soft synth) whoes knobs send CC data, then record a midi clip of notes, every knob i touch previously has implanted static automation in the clip (see photo).

Ableton got back to me and said something like 
"This is a useful feature, so you dont loose your patch"

I think its a downright annoying feature, that erases future patch refinements when you playback the offending midi clip.

It should be an option, not a default.

Does anyone out there have this same gripe?
Or are you all working around it with ease and im just behind the 8ball here?

Talk to me

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DCUPmusic 3 years ago | 0 comments

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  • pavelmusic
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    yes, it's a pain in the butt, we experience it aswell over here in Rotterdam :) aarschloch feature, if you're asking my opinion. Haven't solved it yet either, so if you do, pls let us know grtz, P.

    3 years ago | 0 comments
  • abiah
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    how long has this always been a feature? Because this hasn't been a problem for me until recently, but recently become a such a nuisance. 

    And the irony is it's doing anything but saving patches for me - it's consistently losing patches I'm in the process developing, as whenever I launch a previously recorded melody line, the unwanted underlying CC in that clip overwrites the patch I'm working on. Most times this creates a hideous train wreck patch with parameters randomly splurged from the old sound onto the lost one I was just working on. 

    Implemented correctly, as an option, this might be useful - although I would rarely use it. But as a non-optional default, it's just been an annoying disruption, and too often a destructive one.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • technologicallyretarded
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    Still having the same problem 3 years later haha.  definitely would love a way to turn clip automation off.  that would be an amazing option to add in.  this way when im using max for live plugins to route cc messages into arrangement view, i can choose not to have the clip automation override. otherwise, i also get the train wreck. anyone found a solution yet? (i even use an external max for live pitchbend to stop the clips getting freaky on me)

    pablo rotter btw, if you ever see this the problem is that clip mode is harder to work with, and when i record something into automation, i want to tweak it in arrangment mode, not have to search through the clips for info, plus the user cc map im using from my virus synth doesnt send names to clip mode, but through my max patch it could except for the midi clip overidee function.  not to mention that i cant do long changes across multiple chopped clips. haha so many reasons to want to turn this feature off

    cheers

    4 days ago | 0 comments
  • pablorotter
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    Clone your track with the CC data you like and then copy the notes into that clip.

    3 years ago | 0 comments
  • pablorotter
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    on the upside you can control patches.  And the CC data can usually be drawn in as envelopes.   I didn't see the problem.

     

    3 years ago | 0 comments

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