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Is there a way to have a volume slider on a midi track(without using the external instrument Ableton device)?

Pleaaaaaaaaase!!

Thanks

i dont know what you want to do with that, but maybe the midiplugin velocity is what you're searching for?

honsey wrote:i dont know what you want to do with that, but maybe the midiplugin velocity is what you're searching for?

I want to adjust the volume of a midi track just like an audio track, like cubase,logic, protools does...i would like a regular fader instead of those leds...am I missing something?

PS: thanks for editing your previous statement and then chastising me for answering the wrong question


??? The volume sliders on a MIDI track are the same as on an audio track

If you want to control an external instrument, you can also use MIDI CC7

For me on midi tracks I have this BUT I would like a fader that use cc7 like that

Thanks for the tips

laird wrote:??? The volume sliders on a MIDI track are the same as on an audio track

...but not for an external instrument

If you want to control an external instrument, you can also use MIDI CC7

...right, but without volume my bcf2000 fader stays down, the velocity plugin seems to be a solution, but why can't they make a SIMPLE "midi volume" like for internal midi instruments???

it sounds like you don't use the External Instrument plug?

that gives a volume slider to a midi track.

A midi track with no instrument = dots

A midi track with an instrument = slider

A midi track using routing to send to an external instrument = dots

A midi track using External Instrument plug to send = slider

longjohns wrote:it sounds like you don't use the External Instrument plug?

I don't Because you must route the audio back in the soundcard, and I will not have enough physical audio input on my digi002R to map each midi channel back in a separate audio in.
I could just use the slider but the fact is that the "slider" created by the "external instruments plug" affect the audio and not the midi.What I would like is a MIDI VOLUME PLUG that can be inserted on a midi track.(maybe I should go to the whishlist???)

Thanks longjohns

velocity plug in?

rbmonosylabik wrote:velocity plug in?

I think it is the ONLY way to do what I want to do, ...for the moment
BUT my BCF2000W in MackieControl mode doesn't respond so well to the selected track in this situation

Thanks

What about "pottards" from :
http://acousmodules.free.fr/acousmodule ... processors
I've never used MIDi plugins other than Live's, so I can make no garuntee that it'll work, but it looks like 12 Sliders hooked up to 12 selectable MIDI CC's.
(from http://www.midiplugins.com/ )

laird wrote:What about "pottards" from :
http://acousmodules.free.fr/acousmodule ... processors
I've never used MIDi plugins other than Live's, so I can make no garuntee that it'll work, but it looks like 12 Sliders hooked up to 12 selectable MIDI CC's.
(from http://www.midiplugins.com/ )

OS X here...But thanks I love those midi tools!!!!
I just wish there was more MIDI plugs (like a midi beat repeat) in Live.

laird wrote:PS: thanks for editing your previous statement and then chastising me for answering the wrong question

Sorry

I was such in a mess with my own brain..

TO CLEAR MY POST:

Problem:
With a BCF2000 in MackieControl mode, no volume/velocity fader automation possible on midi tracks without instruments (external midi out gear).

Solutions:
1.(not for me)Use the External Instruments Ableton device plug (wich is nice) and route the audio of my external gear in my soundcard (but I don't have enough audio input to map each separate midi channel)

2.(for me).Forget the Mackie emulation and then use a Velocity plug on each track with a proper midi cc (7 or what ever)

robocop wrote: I just wish there was more MIDI plugs (like a midi beat repeat) in Live.

Try the arpeggiator.... perhaps with a scale limiter after it. Works great on drums, you can trigger fills quite easily. Add a random plug before the scale if you want your fills to vary a little bit (and scale will help you limit the results to something like "kick, snare, hat" or just "kick hat" or something.

also, this was just brought up on antoher thread, you may find it interesting
http://www.covops.org/index.php/Patch-o ... icBox.html

laird wrote:Try the arpeggiator... perhaps with a scale limiter after it. Works great on drums, you can trigger fills quite easily. Add a random plug before the scale if you want your fills to vary a little bit (and scale will help you limit the results to something like "kick, snare, hat" or just "kick hat" or something.

Yes, the arpeggiator is very nice on drums, definetly the way to go

THANKS Laird