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when Session has reached the amount of tracks, and therefore shows the scrollbar,
the "Drop Files and Devices here" area has fully disappeared..

When you now want to drag in a new device from the browser to create a new track,
you have to drop it on the 5 pixel width seperator line that seperates the last track from the Send A track..

highly annoying..

so please make it so that the "Drop Files and Devices here" area never disappears..

thanks..

Agreed.

In fact I only recently discovered that you could still drop on the line.

Of course the down side is the "wasted" horizontal space of always having a blank area. But even just a few more pixels would help

yep.. it doesn't have to be that much pixels,
just convenient enough to drop a device or clip..

ok, now i've had enough;

try to copy/drag a track after the last track;

CANNOT DO THAT!?

only if you drag it with your mouse OVER the track title area?
which took me at least 50 tries to find that out..

please for the next bugfix, not L7..

was Live 5 also behaving like this?
can't remember this pain..

plus 1 for the original request.

and i swear that return tracks could be reordered by drag and drop.

Its not a major issue for me but i agree with the original wish.

Poster wrote:try to copy/drag a track after the last track;
CANNOT DO THAT!?
only if you drag it with your mouse OVER the track title area?

Not sure i follow you Poster.
I see that tracks "after the last track" (ie. the return tracks if i follow so far) cannot be moved around or copied, duplicated etc. but I tried your solution and couldn't get it to work.
In arrangment and session i tried dragging a return track by its title bar and dropping it on the title bar of another return track. Is this what u mean?

annihilator.1 wrote:and i swear that return tracks could be reordered by drag and drop.

Also didn't understand this but would love to. I must be slow today
If i want to record the output of a return track i just set up an audio track with its input set to the output of the return, arm it and record.
If u have another way I'd LOVE to know, even if it doesn't work right now

bendybones wrote:Its not a major issue for me but i agree with the original wish.

Poster wrote:try to copy/drag a track after the last track;
CANNOT DO THAT!?
only if you drag it with your mouse OVER the track title area?

Not sure i follow you Poster.
I see that tracks "after the last track" (ie. the return tracks if i follow so far) cannot be moved around or copied, duplicated etc. but I tried your solution and couldn't get it to work.
In arrangment and session i tried dragging a return track by its title bar and dropping it on the title bar of another return track. Is this what u mean?

what I meant is that if you try to drag/move a track AFTER the last track (not including the Send tracks)
you can only drop it there if you first move it OVER the last track's titlebar..

I mean this when Session is totally filled and the last track is not visible..

Now that I know you have to drag it over the track's title (so that Session will scroll to the last track)
it's not a big deal for me anymore..

But this behaviour is totally un-intuitive..

Poster wrote:when Session has reached the amount of tracks, and therefore shows the scrollbar,
the "Drop Files and Devices here" area has fully disappeared..

When you now want to drag in a new device from the browser to create a new track,
you have to drop it on the 5 pixel width seperator line that seperates the last track from the Send A track..

highly annoying..

so please make it so that the "Drop Files and Devices here" area never disappears..

thanks..

Hi,

If the Return tracks are visible, you can drop the clip 'on the return track', so that it will create a new track to the right of the last track.

Regards,
Amaury

Poster wrote:ok, now i've had enough;

try to copy/drag a track after the last track;

CANNOT DO THAT!?

only if you drag it with your mouse OVER the track title area?
which took me at least 50 tries to find that out..

please for the next bugfix, not L7..

was Live 5 also behaving like this?
can't remember this pain..

Hi,

For that one: drag the track to move/copy to the header of the last track (it also works for the last track, CTRL drag it to itself): it will move/copy the desired track to the right of the last track.

Regards,
Amaury

Amaury wrote:

Poster wrote:when Session has reached the amount of tracks, and therefore shows the scrollbar,
the "Drop Files and Devices here" area has fully disappeared..

When you now want to drag in a new device from the browser to create a new track,
you have to drop it on the 5 pixel width seperator line that seperates the last track from the Send A track..

highly annoying..

so please make it so that the "Drop Files and Devices here" area never disappears..

thanks..

Hi,

If the Return tracks are visible, you can drop the clip 'on the return track', so that it will create a new track to the right of the last track.

Regards,
Amaury

But this does not work when you drag in new instruments..

Poster wrote:you can only drop it there if you first move it OVER the last track's titlebar.

Now i'm with you