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Resolution of recorded CCs is too low

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:57 pm
by earwax
I've been playing with some MAX patches automating Live's devices with CC data (on pc with midiyoke).
It's all good as long as i'm not recording them, but when recorded, Live interpolates or smoothes the data to unrecognition !
A medium paced lfo turns into a straight line, and most of the data is lost...

I've tried bumping threads priority and stuff in vain, i've also tried different CC modes (7 and 14 bits)...
Also i don't have a midi controller, so i couldn't figure out if teh same happens with hardware.

Is there something i can do, or that's a design problem ?


cheers

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:44 pm
by earwax
bump

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:21 pm
by Machinate
Hi, I have an idea of something you can try!

http://www.teragon.org/wiki/index.php?title=Options.txt
in this document the options.txt file is described. If you scroll down through the list you'll see this entry:

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MidiEventThinning 
I would try making the options.txt file, and put this code in it:

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MidiEventThinning 0
-if that doesn't work then [MidiEventThinning off] or similar.
Let us know how you fare.

Andreas.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:29 am
by earwax
YAY, thanks machinate, i had no idea about that stuff !!

I added this (not sure about the second one though), and the curves are now quite precise !


-MidiEventThinning=0
-ThinningAggressiveness=0


Cheers

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:39 am
by Machinate
:D
Awesome. This needs to go in the little list of tips and tricks. I'll post a link over there.

Congrats, man.

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:37 pm
by m:o
Many thanks!! :D

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:20 am
by friend_kami
ok thats it. im digging through the wiki now.

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:52 pm
by Johnisfaster
Machinate wrote:Hi, I have an idea of something you can try!

http://www.teragon.org/wiki/index.php?title=Options.txt
in this document the options.txt file is described. If you scroll down through the list you'll see this entry:

Code: Select all

MidiEventThinning 
I would try making the options.txt file, and put this code in it:

Code: Select all

MidiEventThinning 0
-if that doesn't work then [MidiEventThinning off] or similar.
Let us know how you fare.

Andreas.
holy cow, does this mean you can now have automation points that actually jump possition recorded properly? I use my kaoss pad to control stuff in live and you can jump possitions all over that thing and it always curves out my recordings.

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:04 pm
by Machinate
Johnisfaster wrote:
Machinate wrote:Hi, I have an idea of something you can try!

http://www.teragon.org/wiki/index.php?title=Options.txt
in this document the options.txt file is described. If you scroll down through the list you'll see this entry:

Code: Select all

MidiEventThinning 
I would try making the options.txt file, and put this code in it:

Code: Select all

MidiEventThinning 0
-if that doesn't work then [MidiEventThinning off] or similar.
Let us know how you fare.

Andreas.
holy cow, does this mean you can now have automation points that actually jump possition recorded properly? I use my kaoss pad to control stuff in live and you can jump possitions all over that thing and it always curves out my recordings.
erhm, I think so, yeah.
Please, my man, be a sport and try it out for us!

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:08 pm
by Johnisfaster
Machinate wrote:
Johnisfaster wrote:
Machinate wrote:Hi, I have an idea of something you can try!

http://www.teragon.org/wiki/index.php?title=Options.txt
in this document the options.txt file is described. If you scroll down through the list you'll see this entry:

Code: Select all

MidiEventThinning 
I would try making the options.txt file, and put this code in it:

Code: Select all

MidiEventThinning 0
-if that doesn't work then [MidiEventThinning off] or similar.
Let us know how you fare.

Andreas.
holy cow, does this mean you can now have automation points that actually jump possition recorded properly? I use my kaoss pad to control stuff in live and you can jump possitions all over that thing and it always curves out my recordings.
erhm, I think so, yeah.
Please, my man, be a sport and try it out for us!
definetly plan on it, was online asking cause I was wasting time at work on the net. going home now.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:20 pm
by commonpike
Hi

is the wiki gone ?

http://www.teragon.org/wiki

i'd love to see that Options.txt description ..

*-pike

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:20 pm
by Angstrom
yeah , it died

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:51 pm
by rbmonosylabik
In case you're wondering how to set it up:

http://www.ableton.com/pages/faq/options_text

P.S.: Bring back the wiki!!

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:44 am
by misteron
rbmonosylabik wrote:In case you're wondering how to set it up:

http://www.ableton.com/pages/faq/options_text

P.S.: Bring back the wiki!!
How can i nav-to that page ? Can't find it by going to any of the sections on Abes FAQ page...

Also, what was in this wiki that I missed while it was alive?

And mostly, Mahinate... please tell me that you didn't guess the phrasing for "MidiEventThinning" and that it was part of the extinct wiki.

Could any of the Options.txt file be used to smooth out the action of the Pad Kontrol's knobs?

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:36 am
by rbmonosylabik
misteron wrote:
rbmonosylabik wrote:In case you're wondering how to set it up:

http://www.ableton.com/pages/faq/options_text

P.S.: Bring back the wiki!!
How can i nav-to that page ? Can't find it by going to any of the sections on Abes FAQ page...

Also, what was in this wiki that I missed while it was alive?

And mostly, Mahinate... please tell me that you didn't guess the phrasing for "MidiEventThinning" and that it was part of the extinct wiki.

Could any of the Options.txt file be used to smooth out the action of the Pad Kontrol's knobs?
No idea, found it via google searching site:ableton.com Options.txt

The wiki had some really cool stuff. The options.txt article had a huge list of commands to input in there. There were some great articles on dummy clips, creating lessons and lots more. Don't think it got a lot of updates after live 6's release, but it still had some great info.