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hey guys.
listening to a lot of boards of canada at the moment and i've noticed on a lot of their synth tracks, they're keyboards are sounding a lot like they've been recorded on a really shoddy run down tape or something, constantly but subtly speeding up and slowing down a lot, detuning and stuff... assuming this can be digitally achieved through some pitch effect or something...

here are clips from a BOC tune and a nathan fake tune, with some subtle pitch bending kinda stuff... dunno a right term for it.

http://download.yousendit.com/D37593FB14B9CBD5

cheers.
louis.

You want a wow and flutter plugin...

Google "Interruptor VST" and you´ll find exactly what you want.....

on the boc synths, the play around with the "vibrato" effect that's on most analog synths, or with a simple sine LFO routed to the synths' pitch

hope it helps

Qnnilson wrote:on the boc synths, the play around with the "vibrato" effect that's on most analog synths, or with a simple sine LFO routed to the synths' pitch

hope it helps

Take it a level further and have one LFO sine wav on the pitch, and another LFO random wav assigned to the speed and intensity of the first LFO. White noise is always fun too

LouisC wrote:they're keyboards are sounding a lot like they've been recorded on a really shoddy run down tape or something

I read an interview with BOC where they admitted to doing that very thing, bouncing recordings between two shoddy, run down tape machines until the signal is sufficiently degraded. I love that sound, and have been able to imitate it by using the aforementioned "sine LFO modulating pitch" technique. Use a really long duration, and a very gentle amplitude. I also like synths that enable you to inject noise into the signal to get a more dirty, broken sound. DaHornet is good, and FabFilter One is also nice for that. Guess I don't have to mention playing with distortion and bitcrushing. You can get a nice messed up effect using AutoPan, and using a higher frequency.

all tricks posted here work fantastic

i remember playing around with an akai vst plugin called "rotator", that "pans" the signal in a rotating motion, with a flange/chorus-like effect. i haven't tried this, but you could make an effect rack adding an auto-pan + flanger + etc.

i just found this topic and while the pitch thing is clearly addressed, what about time?

i did an experiment over the weekend where i linked the pitch in operator and the global tempo controls to a pitch bend wheel on a midi keyboard. i got a nice little tape effect out of it.

http://soundcloud.com/tadomamusic

jamctelex wrote:i just found this topic and while the pitch thing is clearly addressed, what about time?

i did an experiment over the weekend where i linked the pitch in operator and the global tempo controls to a pitch bend wheel on a midi keyboard. i got a nice little tape effect out of it.

http://soundcloud.com/tadomamusic

well dang i just bought your cd!

Reason's Thor's 'analogue' knob does this kind of thing nicely, too.

longjohns wrote:

jamctelex wrote:i just found this topic and while the pitch thing is clearly addressed, what about time?

i did an experiment over the weekend where i linked the pitch in operator and the global tempo controls to a pitch bend wheel on a midi keyboard. i got a nice little tape effect out of it.

http://soundcloud.com/tadomamusic

well dang i just bought your cd!

oh wow. that's awesome! thanks!

To compensate for a lack of a whammy bar, I got Expert Sleepers Warbler, when used simply is a vibrato effect, but has has more uses when put to extremes.
The upside to this is that you can use it on any track, so you're not limited to using vibrato on synths.
For example, use it on a group containing traditional instruments like acoustic guitar, bass and drums and you'll hear what I mean:)

In the Youtube demo of Warbler I see that they're changing presets in VST from within Live's browser using Hot Swap Mode.
How is that possible? I thought it only worked for native Live devices.

shadx312 wrote:To compensate for a lack of a whammy bar, I got Expert Sleepers Warbler, when used simply is a vibrato effect, but has has more uses when put to extremes.
The upside to this is that you can use it on any track, so you're not limited to using vibrato on synths.
For example, use it on a group containing traditional instruments like acoustic guitar, bass and drums and you'll hear what I mean:)

Haven't listened to music, but my way of doing it is:
Bounce to audio,
Move the warp markers randomly with minor changes.

Also usable for tape-like reverb.

yeah its from a tape machine.
You get it from a dent in the play reel which causes it to wobble the pitch. It happen to me in a studio i worked in it sounded amazing on anything none drums.

programmed it it Reason:
http://melodiefabriek.nl/2009/01/klankb ... -tapedeck/

My try it in Ableton too. Have considered it.