live djing/remixing
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 4:01 pm
I fiddled a bit with the demo. I'm mostly interested in live for djing purposes, and I think it could make a super program with some small adaptions. The way it is now it's not flexible enough.
My idea is to have a soundcard with multiple outputs and attach a mixer. Or control the ableton mixer from an external interface (I think tascam makes these kinda mixer interfaces that are in fact just midi controllers...)Anyway, you get the picture, I want to mix it off with real sliders and knobs, and use my laptop/ableton live as sound source. This is possible already, so that's cool.
If I load complete tracks I could dj by selecting my tracks from my hd and putting them in the slots of the tracks. But for that I may just as well use my records and 1200's.
It gets interesting when you cut up tracks to make rough re-arrangements on the spot to blend perfectly with the rough re-arrangements of the other track...
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okey okey I know LIVE isn't really made for djing but I have this idea and live comes really really close
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So what would I need to dj...
- A way to save/open 'the multiple loops/ mixer-tracks/ scenes that form a track' on the fly. The only way to save the stuff that forms a track alltogether right now is to save it as a liveset, but when you load another liveset the music stops... It would be enough for me if I could append a couple of scenes to the liveset on the fly.
- A quick way to rearrange the key assignments of the slots. Like, by selecting a group of key assignments that I can drag and drop (all within the 'slots' section)
- Improved browsing. Not in a filesystem way. I want to tag my loops by giving them descriptions like 'minimal housey with plastikman sounds' or something and then do a search in a search engine fashion. When I'm djing I'm looking for a type of record most of the time rather than a title. This would be the ideal way to catalog my records/loops in the way I think about them, and it would be perfect to quickly find the appropriate next record/ set of loops. I even have some more ideas about the ideal music-file browser but I'll shut up here
So apart from the browsing thing I could do the trick with 2 laptops and a midi sync... But I'm a poor student and 1 laptop was expensive enough already
Anyway, the extra's I'd like aren't really purely for dj purposes. I think the people doing livesets of their own tracks would greatly appreciate this extra flexibility as well.
My idea is to have a soundcard with multiple outputs and attach a mixer. Or control the ableton mixer from an external interface (I think tascam makes these kinda mixer interfaces that are in fact just midi controllers...)Anyway, you get the picture, I want to mix it off with real sliders and knobs, and use my laptop/ableton live as sound source. This is possible already, so that's cool.
If I load complete tracks I could dj by selecting my tracks from my hd and putting them in the slots of the tracks. But for that I may just as well use my records and 1200's.
It gets interesting when you cut up tracks to make rough re-arrangements on the spot to blend perfectly with the rough re-arrangements of the other track...
---intermezzo---
okey okey I know LIVE isn't really made for djing but I have this idea and live comes really really close
------
So what would I need to dj...
- A way to save/open 'the multiple loops/ mixer-tracks/ scenes that form a track' on the fly. The only way to save the stuff that forms a track alltogether right now is to save it as a liveset, but when you load another liveset the music stops... It would be enough for me if I could append a couple of scenes to the liveset on the fly.
- A quick way to rearrange the key assignments of the slots. Like, by selecting a group of key assignments that I can drag and drop (all within the 'slots' section)
- Improved browsing. Not in a filesystem way. I want to tag my loops by giving them descriptions like 'minimal housey with plastikman sounds' or something and then do a search in a search engine fashion. When I'm djing I'm looking for a type of record most of the time rather than a title. This would be the ideal way to catalog my records/loops in the way I think about them, and it would be perfect to quickly find the appropriate next record/ set of loops. I even have some more ideas about the ideal music-file browser but I'll shut up here
So apart from the browsing thing I could do the trick with 2 laptops and a midi sync... But I'm a poor student and 1 laptop was expensive enough already
Anyway, the extra's I'd like aren't really purely for dj purposes. I think the people doing livesets of their own tracks would greatly appreciate this extra flexibility as well.