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Like many others I find the track freeze a little less than exciting. I would love to have the very simple function of "render in place. In other words just automaticly put the "frozen" wave in place of the track and mute all my midi instruments. This would save me resampling or getting the "frozen" track from the temp folder and inserting it myself. It offers alot more as one can still move and edit the audio file but all the "old" fx can be turned off. It just makes alot more sence to me.

What do other ableton heads think of this?

That's exactly what I want. I tried to explain it in another thread but I don't think I was clear.

I always thought thats what freeze was. When I first used freeze, I was like WTF is this???


Wouldn't it be nice to be able to "render in place" individual clips!!

would be cool, but would turn a midi track into an audio track.

Unless they developed some little switch on the top of a track in session view that changed it from midi to audio at the click of a button and back again whenever you wanted. but saved the last state of each side whenver you clicked .

As for midi tracks I have a couple of ideas but they are a little rough. One would be to have an option when "rendering in place" and it would be "replace midi track with audio track?" and if you picked no then it would create a new audio track in beside the existing midi track that would be automaticly minimize and become disabled. Something like that. would have to think about it more. But i know nothing about coding so i dont know what is hard and what is easy. So it is better that someone that actualy know what they are doing think about it.

Glad to see a couple of responoces to this.

atomic wrote:As for midi tracks I have a couple of ideas but they are a little rough. One would be to have an option when "rendering in place" and it would be "replace midi track with audio track?" and if you picked no then it would create a new audio track in beside the existing midi track that would be automaticly minimize and become disabled. Something like that. would have to think about it more. But i know nothing about coding so i dont know what is hard and what is easy. So it is better that someone that actualy know what they are doing think about it.

Glad to see a couple of responoces to this.

This definately gets my vote, a new audio track placed next to the midi track that created it would be sooooo useful. I'm finding that i'm not really using the freeze feature, I always used to just bounce stuff and disable the midi track anyway, and I'm still doing it that way because 9 times out of 10 I end up keeping the audio.

Those are good ideas.

thanks martyn

agreed....much useful as today's freeze. so Abs, let's do it in the next beta 5.0.2b9

i think render in place is more of a compositional tool than freeze, which is meant to optimize a set. so i would vote for keeping the freeze function, but also adding the render in place option.

"One would be to have an option when "rendering in place" and it would be "replace midi track with audio track?" and if you picked no then it would create a new audio track in beside the existing midi track that would be automaticly minimize and become disabled"

i like the idea of having the option of creating a new track from the render, but i think it would be better to create a new audio track from a rendered MIDI track instead. it would make a bit more sense since if you were to render an audio track, it would create a new audio track.

"Wouldn't it be nice to be able to "render in place" individual clips!!"

Not just that, but being able to highlight a portion of a clip and rendering it too!!

roby wrote:i think render in place is more of a compositional tool than freeze, which is meant to optimize a set. so i would vote for keeping the freeze function, but also adding the render in place option.

Yes I think you are right on that one. Personaly I dont think I would ever use freeze over "render in place" but hey if some would prefer it then why take away a good thing.

roby wrote:i like the idea of having the option of creating a new track from the render, but i think it would be better to create a new audio track from a rendered MIDI track instead. it would make a bit more sense since if you were to render an audio track, it would create a new audio track.

That is what I said.

The idea of renderingi clips is a great one. This would be very usefull. [/code]