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czechchap wrote:Live 5 - HUH?

138 % - 149 % CLICKY, GLITHCY AND SLOW.

15" TITANIUM G4 POWERBOOK

MAC OSX PANTHER 10,4

CPU 867 MHZ

RAM 1 GIG

SOUNDCARD COREAUDIO

HARDDRIVE 5400


SICK OF LIVE 5 UNDER MAC? - YES.

well fuck dude you're running live on a 867mhz computer.

what the hell do you expect? lmao

how old is that machine?

it must be ancient.

I decided to test all the my PC's:

Office
1) Ableton 5.0.3 = 37%
2) Make/Model = DELL Optiplex Desktop
3) Operating System = XP Pro
4) CPU = Intel P4 3.0ghz
5) Ram = 1Gb
6) Soundcard = Stock/Onboard?
7) Drive Speed = 7200

DAW
1) Ableton 5.0.3 = 27%
2) Make/Model = Home Built
3) Operating System = XP Pro SP2
4) CPU = AMD Athlon 64 3500+ (S939) 2.27ghz
(Asus A8V-DELUXE-WIF MB)
5) Ram = 2Gb PC3200 DDR
6) Soundcard = Sound Blaster Audigy Live (ASIO4All)
7) Drive Speed = 1 x WD Raptor 36Gb 10,000RPM SATA HDD
1 x WD 200Gb 7200 8Mb Cache SATA

Internet PC
1) Ableton 5.0.3 = 51%
2) Make/Model = Compaq Evo 510 Small Footprint
3) Operating System = XP Pro SP2
4) CPU = Intel P4 2.0ghz
5) Ram = 768Mb
6) Soundcard = Stock/Onboard (MME/DX)
7) Drive Speed = 7200

Laptop
1) Ableton 5.0.3 = 45%
2) Make/Model = HP Compaq NX9010
3) Operating System = XP Pro SP2
4) CPU = Mobile Intel P4 3.06ghz
5) Ram = 960Mb
6) Soundcard = Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS PCMCIA (ASIO4All)
7) Drive Speed = 5400

I expected a little more from my DAW

1) Ableton Live 5.0.3: CPU Meter 24%
2) Laptop/Desktop? Asus W1v
3) Operating System Win XP
4) CPU Make Model and Speed: Intel Pent M 2ghz
5) Amount of Ram / Speed of Ram 1gb
6) Soundcard:m-audio audiophile firewire
7) Hard Disk Drive Speed: 100gb 5200

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Just got the machine after my previous Asus M6ne was stolen

I'm happy with the way it runs... no driver issues with the audiophile. Luckily I had everything backed up. This test was with internal drive

1) Ableton Live CPU Meter % - 26%
2) Laptop/Desktop? Make/Model - Homemade desktop
3) Operating System - Windows XP pro
4) CPU Make Model and Speed - AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+, overclocked to 2400MHz
5) Amount of Ram / Speed of Ram (if you know) - 2GB/DDR400
6) Soundcard (Stock or add on?, usb/firewire/pci ?) - Digidesign MBOX
7) Hard Disk Drive Speed (if you know) - 7200rpm


Can't wait for multiprocessor support in Live 6.

1) Ableton Live CPU Meter: 50%
2) Make/Model: Dell Inspiron 9400
3) Operating System: Windows XP Professional SP2
4) CPU Make Model and Speed: Intel Core Duo T2500 (2.0GHz)
5) Amount of Ram / Speed of Ram: 1Gb 667 MHz
6) Soundcard: RME Fireface 800
7) Hard Disk Drive Speed: 100Gb 7200RPM

This is really amazing, I'm floored as to why the CPU meter is so high... I performed this test on a fresh install of XP SP2, with the only things installed at the time I ran the test were:

Live 5.0.3
Chipset drivers
Video card drivers
Sound card drivers

It's interesting to note that the windows CPU meter flicks quickly between about 24% and 32% while the Ableton meter reads a pretty consistent 50%...

I haven't put on all my plugs or anything yet, so I haven't been able to test the machine's real performance vs. my old machine (P4 3.2 Northwood) just yet, but I'm 99% sure the CPU metering is out of whack because it's dual core and when I open some old projects they won't be chugging badly or anything at all...

Vance wrote:1) Ableton Live CPU Meter: 50%
2) Make/Model: Dell Inspiron 9400
3) Operating System: Windows XP Professional SP2
4) CPU Make Model and Speed: Intel Core Duo T2500 (2.0GHz)
5) Amount of Ram / Speed of Ram: 1Gb 667 MHz
6) Soundcard: RME Fireface 800
7) Hard Disk Drive Speed: 100Gb 7200RPM

This is really amazing, I'm floored as to why the CPU meter is so high... I performed this test on a fresh install of XP SP2, with the only things installed at the time I ran the test were:

Live 5.0.3
Chipset drivers
Video card drivers
Sound card drivers

It's interesting to note that the windows CPU meter flicks quickly between about 24% and 32% while the Ableton meter reads a pretty consistent 50%...

I haven't put on all my plugs or anything yet, so I haven't been able to test the machine's real performance vs. my old machine (P4 3.2 Northwood) just yet, but I'm 99% sure the CPU metering is out of whack because it's dual core and when I open some old projects they won't be chugging badly or anything at all...

there is definitely something wrong. i get 24% with my inspiron 9400. edirol fa101. 2GB 667MHz, T2500, SP2, 100GB SATAII drive...

try to adjust windows settings....

spacy

Hmm... just did a reinstall of SP1 and I'm hitting that sweet 24% spot

So what exactly was it about SP2 that was killing it I wonder... I had also installed the latest RyanVM pack, that might have done it, although I can't see how Microsoft hotfixes could kill performance...

Vance wrote:Hmm... just did a reinstall of SP1 and I'm hitting that sweet 24% spot

So what exactly was it about SP2 that was killing it I wonder... I had also installed the latest RyanVM pack, that might have done it, although I can't see how Microsoft hotfixes could kill performance...

SP2 in my case didn´t have this issue. i would make an image of your system now and install SP2.
What do you think in generell of the Dell 9400? Pretty nice thing, ha?

Spacy

HI guys,

thought i'd drop you a line on the 5.2 beta performance for comparison

1 - 27-29%
2 - iMac Desktop
3 - OSX 10.4.5
4 - 2GHz Duo Core Intel 32bit
5 - 1GB (one stick)
6 - Onboard (waiting for Alesis to pull their fingers out!)
7 - 7200RPM (250GB)

Not too bad! Performing about as well as a Dual Core G5 (running at 2.3 GHz) but a little less than 64bit PC processor.

Would be good to hear how others get on with the new Mactels.

Andy

andy, you are a gentleman and a scholar.
thank you.

Spacerboy - the 9400 kicks ASS... heavily

I've got it set up to connect by firewire to my desktop machine, so I can use its hard drives... Fuckin rocks coz I've got it so that the drive letters of the desktop hard drives are the same on the desktop as on the laptop, so u can seemlessly work on desktop projects on the lappy... and for portability, you can just save self-contained!!!

Just figured out what the problem was with SP2 and Ableton... friggin speedstep had it at 997 mHz or whatever, and Ableton wasn't enough to bring it up to full speed, hence 50% CPU...

SpeedswitchXP or even just running CPU-Z brings it up to full speed and 24% ableton awesomeness...

1 - 27-31%
2 - Intel iMac
3 - OSX 10.4.5
4 - 1.83GHz Intel Core Duo
5 - 1GB Ram (2x512)
6 - Onboard Audio (default 13 ms)
7 - 160 GB 7200RPM SATA

The only VSTi visible and usable by Live 5.2 is Crystal...
But the good news is that all of my favorites (VSTi's) are comming soon to Intel Macs anyway and even better news is that Live 5.2 runs like a champ
Thanks heaps Abletons...

nice - small margin between the 1.83 and the 2GHz models!

Live 5.2 BetaV4 :-

1) Ableton Live CPU Meter - 24% -> 27%
2) Laptop/Desktop? Make/Model - HP TC4200 Tablet PC
3) Operating System - Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2OO5 SP2
4) CPU Make Model and Speed - Intel Pentium M 1.86 Processor 750
5) Amount of Ram / Speed of Ram - 1.49GB / DDR533 sd2
6) Soundcard - Stock Audio card ASIO4ALL Version 2.6 Driver
7) Hard Disk Drive Speed - 5400rpm

Initially it was hovering around 60% then i got V2.6 of ASIO4all on the go and it came up roses!

27% Live CPU Meter

Assembled PC (Mobo : Asus A8V Deluxe)
Win XP (no SP)
AMD64 3500+
2GB RAM
Creamware Luna II (PCI)
HD Western Digital Raptor - 10.000 Rpm