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Hi folks,


We just released the new bug fix update Live 4.1.4.

Just go to the download section of our website www.ableton.com/downloads
or use the "check for updates" function within your Live version.

We are sorry for the inconvenience concerning the broken ReWire slave behavior of Live 4.1.3.


Kind Regards,
Alex


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The list of bug fixes and improvements from Live 4.1.3 to Live 4.1.4:
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[01]Bug: Rewire Slave functionality

Platform: All

Live would not work right as ReWire
slave. The symptoms would be anything
between crashes and strange behavior.

Status: Fixed



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The list of bug fixes and improvements from Live 4.1.2 to Live 4.1.3:
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[01]Bug: Audio effects in MIDI track

Platform: All

Live would behave strange when loading a
document with two or more audio effect device
in a MIDI track but no instrument.

Status: Fixed



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[02]Bug: MIDI editor velocity selection

Platform: All

When selecting MIDI velocities using a selection
frame all MIDI velocities along the horizontal
size of the selection frame would be selected,
also if they are not inside the selection frame

Status: Fixed



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[03] Bug: Too many automateable parameters

Platform: All

Under special circumstances Live would
deny to open large Live Sets containing
too many automateable parameters because
an internal limitation. This limitation
value is now increased.

Status: Fixed



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[04]Bug: Potential crash with MIDI or Audio devices

Platform: All

To detect if a MIDI or Audio device
caused a crash Live creates and
files to mark such a crashed device.
If it is not possible to remove
such a file Live would crash.

Status: Fixed



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[05]Bug: Key handling after VST close

Platform: Windows only

For some VSTs (like z3ta+) Live would not get computer
keyboard input after closing the VST.
This problem is fixed but we had to change in the
way how the VST is close so it is important to get
feedback about related problem with other VSTs

Status: Fixed




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Link to the announcement of Live 4.1.2:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18861

>>>>>Big thanks to all participants of our small beta circle!
Hallo Alex
Ich würde euch sehr gerne bei den Betatests helfen. Ich habe aber das Problem, dass ich meine Songs in der Betaversion nicht sichern kann.
Es ist kein Problem, dass die Beta eventuell abstürzt. Apfel S ist ok.
Aber alles was ich am Song gemacht habe ist weg wenn ich die Beta nutze!??!
Liebe Grüsse alonso

finally the keyboard-strokes-not-working fix! thanks a million. makes z3ta+ useable again

Appears that the problem with the z3ta+ still exists for me when I open a set after using one with z3ta+.

Does that make sense?

Appears that the problem with the z3ta+ still exists for me when I open a set after using one with z3ta+.

Does that make sense?

same here

Every song I open that was made with live 4.1.2 is crashing when being opened as a rewired slave to logic 7.1 in the new 4.1.3 update. I am also running rewire version 2.2.5.

okr wrote:Every song I open that was made with live 4.1.2 is crashing when being opened as a rewired slave to logic 7.1 in the new 4.1.3 update. I am also running rewire version 2.2.5.

Me too!!!
Arrrghhh... this is getting soooo old.
Ableton really needs to address ReWire stability sometime this century.
Forget bells & whistles and return to its roots as a solid loop/sample player.

Opening a medium-large Live doc crashes Live since ver4.0...
A REAL DRAG since you then have to:
restart Logic,
load its huge doc,
start Live,
load the large Live doc,
THEN CRASH!!!
Start over with reduced Live doc...
cross fingers,
1/2 hour later wonder what you were planning to do in the first place.
I hate ReWire now...

SORRY sorry sorry for rant...
but I've wasted sooo much time with all this.
(& yes, I have sent numerous crash logs to Abelton...)
FWIW, I'm back to using Live ver4.12
since this ver crashes EVERY time I try to open a doc in ReWire mode.
rRand

rand wrote:

okr wrote:Every song I open that was made with live 4.1.2 is crashing when being opened as a rewired slave to logic 7.1 in the new 4.1.3 update. I am also running rewire version 2.2.5.

Me too!!!
Arrrghhh... this is getting soooo old.
Ableton really needs to address ReWire stability sometime this century.
Forget bells & whistles and return to its roots as a solid loop/sample player.

Opening a medium-large Live doc crashes Live since ver4.0...
A REAL DRAG since you then have to:
restart Logic,
load its huge doc,
start Live,
load the large Live doc,
THEN CRASH!!!
Start over with reduced Live doc...
cross fingers,
1/2 hour later wonder what you were planning to do in the first place.
I hate ReWire now...

SORRY sorry sorry for rant...
but I've wasted sooo much time with all this.
(& yes, I have sent numerous crash logs to Abelton...)
FWIW, I'm back to using Live ver4.12
since this ver crashes EVERY time I try to open a doc in ReWire mode.
rRand

According to EW on KVRAUDIO 4.1.3 Crashes with Reaktor 5 when loading as a VST also - apparently this is not the case with 4.1.2 .
I'm about to layby Reaktor 5 in 3 to 4 weeks time so hopefully this will be ironed out by the time I pay it off (crosses fingers) .......

Sounds like the problem might be Logic.

has anyone else noticed a longer loading time for 413?
is there some extra hiden stuff loading?

FaX-01 wrote:According to EW on KVRAUDIO 4.1.3 Crashes with Reaktor 5 when loading as a VST also - apparently this is not the case with 4.1.2 .
I'm about to layby Reaktor 5 in 3 to 4 weeks time so hopefully this will be ironed out by the time I pay it off (crosses fingers) .......

Yes it does... the shell loads up fine but loading any ensemble will immediately crash Live. I've written Ableton support and submitted a bugreport to NI about it.
Hopefully it'll be fixed soon.
ew

I'm not experiencing the Live/R5 problem on my PC. Carbon 2 loads and plays fine.

Is there anything else I should check?

I don't think this problem is Logic specific. My Nuendo 2 host doesn't even let 4.1.3 open now. 4.1.2 opens fine, but NOT 4.1.3.


Mac OSX 10.2.8 Dual 1.25 ghz 2 gig RAM RME DSP 96/52

kuniklo wrote:I'm not experiencing the Live/R5 problem on my PC. Carbon 2 loads and plays fine.

Is there anything else I should check?

I couldn't say. I've tried loading EXT and Chainer and then loading R5 into them (which works fine normally)- same result. As soon as I load an ensemble, Live goes south. I wasn't seeing this in either 4.11 or 4.12...
ew

reaktor 5 seems to work better in 4.1.3 and 4.1.2 in general, actually I have not had a reaktor related crash with version5 (mainly use, carbon 2, junatik, l3, few smaller synths I made myself, nothing major). I can also load new live sessions via rewire fine with 4.1.3, it's all the old sessions that crash it (which load fine when it's not in rewire mode).