Bug fix update Live 4.1.1 released!

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Bug fix update Live 4.1.1 released!

Post by Alex » Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:17 pm

Hi folks,

We have just released the bug fix update Live 4.1.1.
Just go to the download section of our website www.ableton.com or
use the "Check for updates" function within your Live version.

Beside several bug fixes and improvements Live 4.1.1 allows you
to hide the Operator instrument from the instrument browser list.
Just check the Product page within the Preferences.

For all other bug fixes and improvements see the list below

Have fun with Live

Kind regards,
Alex



===============================================================================
The list of bug fixes and improvements from Live 4.1.1b4 to Live 4.1.1:
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[01] Improvement: VST / AU window switches

Platform: Mac OS X

Improved performance when often switched between
Live and any VST/AU plug window


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[02] Improvement: Handling of MOTU Mach5 AU

Platform: Mac OS X

Workaround for missing certain information in
MOTU Mach5 Audio Unit Version 1.2, so it should
work now.



===============================================================================
The list of bug fixes and improvements from Live 4.1.1b3 to Live 4.1.1b4:
===============================================================================
===============================================================================


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[01] Bug: Creating breakpoints on clip envelopes

Platform: All

Trying to create a breakpoint on a clip's envelope while completely
zoomed-in would cause the mouse cursor to jump to the right corner
of the envelope view.

Status: Fixed



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[02] Bug: VST WavesShell 5.x

Platform: OS X

VST WavesShell 5.x crashed while scanning.

Status: Fixed



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[03] Improvement: Improved VST Shell Scanning

Platform: All

VST WavesShell 5.x is scanned faster.



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[04] Improvement: Preferences Product Page

Platform: All

Some more layout and language corrections.





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The list of bug fixes and improvements from Live 4.1.1b2 to Live 4.1.1b3:
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===============================================================================


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[01] Improvement: Default 'Groove' setting

Platform: All

MIDI clips created within Live will now overtake the current global 'Groove'
setting from the preferences.



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[02] Improvement: Preferences Product Page

Platform: All

Several layout and language corrections.




===============================================================================
The list of bug fixes and improvements from Live 4.1.1b1 to Live 4.1.1b2:
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===============================================================================


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[01] Bug: Rendering/Consolidate Ping Pong Delay

Platform: All

Under certain Live would not render correctly tracks containing the
Ping Pong Delay effect because a wrong feedback value.


Status: Fixed



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[02] Bug: Random crash when recording with 96kHz

Platform: All

Under very rare conditions Live would crash when recording with 96kHz for
longer periods of time.

Status: Fixed



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[03] Bug: Recording/Consolidate in ReWire slave mode

Platform: All

Running as ReWire slave Live would not recognizing the host
sample rate on recording and consolidation.


Status: Fixed



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[04] Bug: Operator: Global time

Platform: All

Because of a wrong initialization Operator's Global Time parameter could behave
not correctly.

Status: Fixed



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[05] Bug: Save of detail view state

Platform: All

Live would not save correctly the open/closed state of the detail view
(track vs. clip view) in the song.

Status: Fixed







===============================================================================
The list of bug fixes and improvements from Live 4.1 to Live 4.1.1b1:
===============================================================================
===============================================================================


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[01] Bug: Keys and mouse clicks on OS X

Platform: OS X

There was a noticeable delay when using computer keys or clicking with
the mouse on OS X. This bug was responsible for some other strange behavior
such as inaccuracies in Tap-Tempo.


Status: Fixed



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[02] Bug: Crash for special keys on a japanese system

Platform: All

Live would crash when typing certain characters (such as German
umlauts) on a Japanese system.

Status: Fixed



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[03] Bug: Crash with VST side chain Plug-ins

Platform: All

Live would crash when trying to use a VST plug-in with a side chain (for instance
Voxengo crunchessor).

Status: Fixed



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[04] Bug: Moving warped playing clips

Platform: All

This fixes the bug that a warped playing session clip, when moved to another
slot while it is playing, would playback at the wrong position.

Status: Fixed



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[05] Bug: AutoFilter quantize

Platform: All

Depending on quantize and arranger loop settings AutoFilter's quantize
did not work right.


Status: Fixed



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[06] Bug: Latency compensation field

Platform: All

There was an rounding problem with the latency compensation field in the
audio preferences.

Status: Fixed



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[07] Bug: ReWire with Reason

Platform: All


Sometimes Live would send a MIDI event with a wrong time stamp to
Propellerhead's Reason.

Status: Fixed



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[08] Bug: Operator parameter modulation


Platform: All

There was a problem with some MIDI controlled parameters producing
non rounded values. This is fixed so that it is now possible to MIDI control
these parameters correctly.

Due to this fix, some Operator envelopes from Live 4.1 may not
be transferred correctly. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Here is the list of parameters we had to change:

-envelope repeat time
-envelope time velocity scale
-pitch env attack level
-pitch env decay level
-pitch env sustain level
-osc coarse
-osc fine
-fixed frequency multiplicator
-osc phase
-osc velocity scale
-osc key scale
-osc d feedback
-envelope time
-envelope key time scale
-filter frequency velocity scale
-filter frequency key scale
-filter frequency envelope amount
-panorama key scale
-panorama random scale
-spread
-transpose
-pitch bend range



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[09] Bug: Startup Crash on OS X 10.4

Platform: OS X 10.4

Live 4.1 would crash when starting on Mac OS X 10.4.

Status: Fixed





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[10] Improvements: Operator hide

Platform: All

It is now possible to hide Operator. You can do this in the Products section
of Live's preferences. If hidden, Operator is not visible in the instrument
browser and the Operator Lessons are not accessible via the Help menu.
Furthermore, if you load a song containing Operator while it is hidden,
you can load the song but the contained Operator will be disabled.



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[11] Improvement: Edirol Orchestra plug-in

Platform: All

Better support for the Edirol Orchestra plug-in.



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[12] Improvements: Lesson view screen resolution

Platform: All

We removed the screen resolution restrictions for the Lesson view.
Therefore the Lesson view should be visible on all screen resolutions.




Link to the annoucement of Live 4.1.1b4:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17462

Link to the annoucement of Live 4.1.1b3:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17327

Link to the annoucement of Live 4.1.1b2:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17212

Link to the annoucement of Live 4.1.1b1:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17121
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Post by Spiralgroove » Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:39 pm

Sidechaining!!!!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!

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Post by mpmusicny » Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:23 pm

First boot, 4.1.1 doesn't seem to be loading my default song (the betas all did..) am i doing something wrong? Is the default for 4.1.1 stored in a different place?

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Post by mpmusicny » Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:24 pm

So. i'll assume that after 400 views no one else is having this problem, so I'll progress to phase 2 - any one know what the hell i could be doing wrong? I have repaired preferences, BTW....

thanks

Malcolm

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Post by jardim do mar » Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:34 am

ditto ,,,here,, 20 audio projects from 4.1 open in 4.11,,,,,(no problems),,, any projects with sample tank vsti's ,,,nada,,,,, crashes,,,, everytime,,,,,, gateway laptop 512mb ,,2.5 ghz windows xp, sp1. tascam us-428 and 122 sound device ,,,, 4.1 was rock solid,,,,,,
ok,,, found the culprit,,,,,
vsti's not loading ,,,,, sample tank 1.1.4 ,,,sample tank 2,,,,,,,,,
fl studio 5.02 seems to work,,,,as a vsti,,,,


here's the error message,,,,,
a serious program error has occurred. you should try and save your work under a new name using the save as command from the file menu and restart the application

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Post by Alex » Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:16 am

Hi folks,

it makes no much sense here to post this kind of problems. It is better to make a separate thread in the "Bug and Problems" forum.


mpmusicny,
please check the preferences directory of Live 4.1.1. There must be a file called Template.als which is your default document.
If it is there it should be loaded automatically. If it does not, please send me this file.
if this file is not there, please check the preferences directory of your previous Live version and copy the Template.als file from there.


jardim do mar,
If I understand you right, you have a song containing SampleTank VSTi which load in 4.1 but not in 4.1.1. Is that right, please send me one of this songs.


regards,
Alex

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Post by jardim do mar » Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:32 am

can't send a song,,,, just to protect myself,,, ok,, but the problem is obvious,,, sample tank 1.1.4 and sample tank 2, don't load at all ,,even starting a new project,,,, if i have some time,, I will try create a new song in 4.1 using sample tank,,, then try to open it in 4.11,,,


to repro the bug,,,,, In live 4.11,,just click and drag the vsti sample tank into a midi track ,,,, I get the error message ,I said before,,,,, happens everytime,, for me

more info for ya,,, it seems to be sample tank 1.1.4 causing the problem,,, i replaced sample tank 1.1.4 with sample tank 2 in projects created with 4.1 ,, then opened in 4.11 ,it worked ,, no problems,


here's something else,, in 4.11 if I try and load sample tank 1.14 ,,i get the error message ,,,then if i try to load smaple tank 2 ,,i stll get the error mesage,,,,but ,,, if i restart live 4.11 and try and load sample tank 2 "first" it loads,, no problems,,,, go figure,,,

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Post by Alex » Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:31 am

Hi jardim do mar,

SampleTank 1.x never worked in previous versions of Live but as you wrote SampleTank 2.x should do.

regards,
Alex

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Post by mpmusicny » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:42 pm

Thanks Alex - I thought it must be something simple. I didn't realise that each version creates it's own template (and it's own pref folder). Very useful, once you know.

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Post by Patrick Turner-Lee » Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:11 am

I am new to Ableton got 4 and Operator. Just like to say it is superb. Does operator get updates as well??

Can I import midi files from Cubase???

Thanks
Patrick

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Post by hoffman2k » Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:19 pm

Patrick Turner-Lee wrote:Does operator get updates as well???
It probably will,.
Patrick Turner-Lee wrote:Can I import midi files from Cubase???
You can drag and drop midi files from the browser in Live 4.

Cheers

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Daft question.

Post by Simon Anderson » Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:30 pm

How do I obtain/download the bugfix? Sorry guys, but it's just not obvious to a novice.
Total novice in the field of musical software. My ambition is to become sufficiently competent to play Live as a DJ within 12 month. Realistic?

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Re: Daft question.

Post by hoffman2k » Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:58 am

Simon Anderson wrote:How do I obtain/download the bugfix? Sorry guys, but it's just not obvious to a novice.
Hi folks,

We have just released the bug fix update Live 4.1.1.
Just go to the download section of our website www.ableton.com or
use the "Check for updates" function within your Live version.

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