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Retitled: MFB Kult and other drum machine/sampler queries
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:23 am
by aqua_tek
http://www.mfberlin.de/Produkte/Musikel ... -kult.html
Since 1979 four rhythm machines were developed and produced: MFB-301, MFB-501, MFB-512 and MFB-612. In Germany these devices are very popular, since the inexpensive machines contained interesting rhythms for rock musicians. MFB digitized some of these sounds, and a multiple sounds of other far common rhythm machines. All these samples are packed into the memory of the MFB-KULT. The 192 sounds are divided in 16 sets, whereby each set contains 12 sounds. Since not every each rhythm machine had 12 sounds, a set consists of sounds of up to three rhythm machines. On a keyboard each set has one octave, so that a 4 octave keyboard or each MIDI channel has four sound sets.
Sounds from following drummachines and devices are available: Boss 55, Casio PT-68, Casio VL-1, CR-78, CR-8000, Drumtracks, Drumulator, El. Harmonix, Hohner, Korg DDD1, Korg-220, KPR-77, Linn 1, MFB-401, MFB-501, MFB-512, MFB-612, Pearl SC-40, Rhythm Ace, Simmons Clap, Simmons SDS, TR-606, TR-727, TR-808, TR-909 and Vermona.
Anyone had a shot at one of these little machines? VERY VERY tempting
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:36 pm
by aqua_tek
anyone? Bueller?
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:25 pm
by Lo-Fi Massahkah
I don't get it. It's a midi box with sampled sounds but without much hands-on control.
Why not just get a sample collection?
.m
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:36 pm
by freshdrumma
i have a 503, thought i get that for live, but ended using it in the studio a lot!!!
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:49 pm
by SimonPHC
Lo-Fi Massahkah wrote:Why not just get a sample collection?
Because they are Hardcore into Hardware
They think outside 'one' box and prefer to think inside 'many boxes'...
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:55 pm
by Lo-Fi Massahkah
Sorry, Simon - I still don't get it.
.m
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:33 pm
by SimonPHC
Well, I can't help you. I just have GAS with both soft and hard so I can't explain the difference. I'm just trying to get to the emotional core of their decision this was a good idea. My only guess is they are Hardcore into Hardware...
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:34 pm
by thelike5
Lo-Fi Massahkah wrote:I don't get it. It's a midi box with sampled sounds but without much hands-on control.
Why not just get a sample collection?
.m
Great point... and I can assure you, the sample collection won't break and probably sounds better too...
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:36 pm
by Lo-Fi Massahkah
Well, I can't help you. I just have GAS with both soft and hard so I can't explain the difference. I'm just trying to get to the emotional core of their decision this was a good idea. My only guess is they are Hardcore into Hardware...
Sure I can see where MFB is coming from wanting to sell something, make some money. But I'm thinking their other products are more tasty. The MFB Synth, Kraftzwerg... They are hardware, analogue and hands-on.
I just don't get this Kult thing. What sets it apart from software, except being a box on your desk?
.m
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:43 pm
by SimonPHC
the only thing I can think of (but don't feel strongly about) is that it's not software. I can imagine some kind a German fetish groups exist around these kind of things...
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:53 pm
by aqua_tek
well i dont know, i just kind of have an old drum machine fetish and this kind of seemed like a nice idea, to have a bunch of them neatly packed in to one, so to speak. Bad case of GAS
Anyways, never mind. I thought this thing would be a little cheaper. Maybe something 100 USD or under. But I can't justify 265 USD. For that amount, I could get 3 or 4 different crummy, old, cheesy, REAL drum machines. Already on it. EBAY YAY!
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:06 pm
by Lo-Fi Massahkah
Sorry guys.
Didn't mean to mess with your GAS.
.m
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:11 pm
by lola
This is just samples, no individual outs, midi (not so tight timing), it it would have a step seq you would get a tighter timing.
If i where you, i would save up some money and get me a nice mpc60, load your own samples in it, benefit form it's timing, and individual outs, and sound!! this machine rocks
If you wanna make italo
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:28 pm
by aqua_tek
yeah i'm definitely not buying this. Just looking at some real drum machines.
The thing about the MPC 60 is that I'm a little apprehensive of spending SO much money on something so old, that has so much potential to crap out at any moment. I mean, it's one thing to buy like 1 or 2 cheap korg and yamaha drum machines, to serve a certain purpose, which is to have a nice, crappy, lofi sounding drum module. but to spend $500 + on an MPC without exactly knowing when you'll have to take it in for repair and how much it'll cost... i mean... not too enticing.
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:42 pm
by Lo-Fi Massahkah
Get something cheap with a decent step sequencer (RM1x, ER-1...) and then put your samples in Live.
.m